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Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft

To: steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
From: Stu via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 12:21:27 -0400
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To turn the shaft, I used a screwdriver type nut driver, one piece, non
magnetic.  1/4'' , IIRC.

Stu

On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:23 AM steve wick via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> The missing retaining clip, and the drive shaft leaning to the side,
> presents a challenge, but under normal circumstances, what I use for
> adjusting the oil pump drive shaft position is an old distributor with th=
e
> cam gear removed from the distributor shaft. Nothing to fall off the end,
> relatively cheap from a wrecking yard, and I can align the pump drive sha=
ft
> so the distributor rotor points to #1 cylinder.
>
> Steve
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Larry
> Mayfield via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:43 PM
> *To:* 'Gary' <garywinblad@comcast.net>; rflynn@alum.rpi.edu <
> rflynn@alum.rpi.edu>
> *Cc:* tigers@autox.team.net <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
>
>
> Sounds like good advice! But when the socket comes off  of the extension
> and falls down into the pan, gonna have to remove it anyway. Or if you us=
e
> a priming tool, yeah even better, wont it fall down the hole=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Again, good advice!
>
>
>
> mayf
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of *Gary
> *Sent:* 13 August 2020 07:18
> *To:* rflynn@alum.rpi.edu
> *Cc:* tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
>
>
>
> Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.
> You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take out
> the starter and re-gasket it.
> I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.
> It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some drag
> though.
> I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work..  put a drill
> on it an see if you can spin it
> to get oil pressure.  Drill needs to be on reverse.  You'll get more
> resistance at speed.
> Gary
>
>
> On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:
>
> A bit more diagnostic information
>
> - when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not fee=
l
> the retaining clip that should be present
>
> - Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top
>
> - There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the
> last person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it =
to
> seat)
>
> - I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero
> resistance, not sure if that is normal?
>
>
>
> I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump a=
t
> the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip & it
> leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.
>
>
>
> Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can do
> without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) and do
> things properly.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sometimes they are just difficult...
>
>
> IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side.  We
>
> jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side
>
>
> which made it more vertical...
>
>
> Good luck,
>
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via
>
> Tigers wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In trying to replace the distributor after
>
> changing my intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am
>
> struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,
>
> which seems to be leaning over.
>
>
>
> - tried jiggling the rotor
>
>
>
> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while
>
> applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing
>
> both
>
>
>
> - tried using a long socket & extension to put
>
> the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> My next attempts will involve
>
>
>
> - having someone else push down while I turn the
>
> crap with a ratchet
>
>
>
> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with
>
> a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil
>
> pump shaft more centered
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words
>
> of wisdom.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers in advance,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">To =
turn the shaft, I used a screwdriver type nut driver, one piece, non magnet=
ic.=C2=A0 1/4&#39;&#39; , IIRC.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"=
font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:=
small">Stu</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Aug 16, 2020 at 11:23 AM steve wick via Tigers &lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">




<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
The missing retaining clip, and the drive shaft leaning to the side, presen=
ts a challenge, but under normal circumstances, what I use for adjusting th=
e oil pump drive shaft position is an old distributor with the cam gear rem=
oved from the distributor shaft.
 Nothing to fall off the end, relatively cheap from a wrecking yard, and I =
can align the pump drive shaft so the distributor rotor points to #1 cylind=
er.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
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:rgb(0,0,0)">
Steve</div>
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:</b> Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Larry Mayfield =
via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">t=
igers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 13, 2020 1:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> &#39;Gary&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:rflynn@a=
lum.rpi.edu" target=3D"_blank">rflynn@alum.rpi.edu</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:rflynn@alum.rpi.edu" target=3D"_blank">rflynn@alum.rpi.edu</a>&gt;<br>
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"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Distributor -&gt; Oil Pump Shaft</font>
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<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)">Sounds like good advice! But when the socket comes off =C2=A0of the=
 extension and falls down into the pan, gonna have to remove it anyway. Or =
if you use a priming tool, yeah even better,
 wont it fall down the hole=E2=80=A6 =C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)">Again, good advice!</span></p>
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New Roman&quot;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)">=C2=A0</span></p>
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New Roman&quot;,serif">
<span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,7=
3,125)">mayf</span></p>
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New Roman&quot;,serif">
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<b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</spa=
n></b><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Tigers=
 [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 13 August 2020 07:18<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:rflynn@alum.rpi.edu"; target=3D"_blank">rflynn@=
alum.rpi.edu</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tiger=
s@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Distributor -&gt; Oil Pump Shaft</span></p>
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New Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.<br>
You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take out the=
 starter and re-gasket it.<br>
I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.<br>
It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some drag t=
hough.<br>
I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work..=C2=A0 put a dri=
ll on it an see if you can spin it<br>
to get oil pressure.=C2=A0 Drill needs to be on reverse.=C2=A0 You&#39;ll g=
et more resistance at speed.<br>
Gary<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
A bit more diagnostic information</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
- when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not feel =
the retaining clip that should be present</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
- Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
- There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the las=
t person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it to se=
at)</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
- I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero re=
sistance, not sure if that is normal?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump at =
the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip &amp; i=
t leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can do w=
ithout removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) and do thi=
ngs properly.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comc=
ast.net" target=3D"_blank">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
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New Roman&quot;,serif">
<br>
<br>
Sometimes they are just difficult...<br>
<br>
<br>
IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side.=C2=A0 We<b=
r>
<br>
jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side<br>
<br>
<br>
which made it more vertical...<br>
<br>
<br>
Good luck,<br>
<br>
<br>
Gary</p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
<br>
<br>
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<br>
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<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via<br>
<br>
Tigers wrote:<br>
<br>
</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
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<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
<br>
<br>
<br>
</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
In trying to replace the distributor after<br>
<br>
changing my intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am<br>
<br>
struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,<br>
<br>
which seems to be leaning over.</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
- tried jiggling the rotor</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while<br>
<br>
applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing<br>
<br>
both</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
- tried using a long socket &amp; extension to put<br>
<br>
the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
<br>
<br>
</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times =
New Roman&quot;,serif">
My next attempts will involve</p>
</div>
<p style=3D"margin:0cm 0cm 12pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:&quot;Times New =
Roman&quot;,serif">
=C2=A0</p>
<div>
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New Roman&quot;,serif">
- having someone else push down while I turn the<br>
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crap with a ratchet</p>
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- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with<br>
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a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil<br>
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pump shaft more centered</p>
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Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words<br>
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of wisdom.</p>
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Cheers in advance,</p>
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Rick</p>
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