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Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft

To: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>, Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
From: D or G at sbc via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2020 14:47:29 +0000 (UTC)
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This might help. If it does fall into the pan, happened to me 20 years ago, I 
just left it there and bought another shaft.

David Franchi





On Thursday, August 13, 2020, 7:40:48 AM PDT, Stu via Tigers 
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote: 





Make sure you DO NOT use a magnetic socket to turn the shaft.  If it's not 
unseated already, that could pull it out.

Stu

On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 10:18 AM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:
>  
>  Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.
> You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take out the 
> starter and re-gasket it.
> I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.
> It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some drag 
> though.
> I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work..  put a drill on 
> it an see if you can spin it
> to get oil pressure.  Drill needs to be on reverse.  You'll get more 
> resistance at speed.
> Gary
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:
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>> A bit more diagnostic information
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>> - when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not feel 
>> the retaining clip that should be present
>> 
>> - Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top
>> 
>> - There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the last 
>> person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it to seat)
>> 
>> - I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero 
>> resistance, not sure if that is normal?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump at 
>> the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip & it 
>> leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can do 
>> without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) and do 
>> things properly.
>> 
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>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Sometimes they are just difficult...
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>>> IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side.  We
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>>> jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side
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>>> which made it more vertical...
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>>> Good luck,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Gary
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>>> On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via
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>>> Tigers wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>> In trying to replace the distributor after
>>>> 
>>>> changing my intake manifold on the â??65 289 in my Tiger, I am
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>>>> struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,
>>>> 
>>>> which seems to be leaning over.
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>>>> 
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>>>> - tried jiggling the rotor
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - tried turning the crank with a ratchet while
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>>>> applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing
>>>> 
>>>> both
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - tried using a long socket & extension to put
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>>>> the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations
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>>>> My next attempts will involve
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>>>> - having someone else push down while I turn the
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>>>> crap with a ratchet
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>>>> - trying to pack some grease around the shaft with
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>>>> a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil
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>>>> pump shaft more centered
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>>>> Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words
>>>> 
>>>> of wisdom.
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>>>> Cheers in advance,
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>>>> Rick
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>>>> -- 
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>>>> 
>>>> rick
>>>> 
>>>> 
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