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Sounds like good advice! But when the socket comes off of the extension =
and falls down into the pan, gonna have to remove it anyway. Or if you =
use a priming tool, yeah even better, wont it fall down the =
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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Gary
Sent: 13 August 2020 07:18
To: rflynn@alum.rpi.edu
Cc: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> Oil Pump Shaft
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Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the pan.
You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to take out =
the starter and re-gasket it.
I would try more to to re-seat it or get the distributor back first.
It should turn pretty easily when in the pump though, should be some =
drag though.
I have a special tool to spin it but a socket should work.. put a drill =
on it an see if you can spin it
to get oil pressure. Drill needs to be on reverse. You'll get more =
resistance at speed.
Gary
On 8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers wrote:
A bit more diagnostic information
- when I run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not =
feel the retaining clip that should be present
- Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the top
- There is no residue in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the =
last person in there stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it =
to seat)
- I can get a socket on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero =
resistance, not sure if that is normal?
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I am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump =
at the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip & =
it leans over against the wall of the hole it is in.
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Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which I believe I can =
do without removing the entire engine, appreciate any input on that) and =
do things properly.
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On Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net =
Sometimes they are just difficult...
IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was off to one side. We
jacked the car on that side so it leaned to the other side
which made it more vertical...
Good luck,
Gary
On 8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via
Tigers wrote:
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In trying to replace the distributor after
changing my intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my Tiger, I am
struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump shaft,
which seems to be leaning over.
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- tried jiggling the rotor
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- tried turning the crank with a ratchet while
applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was doing
both
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- tried using a long socket & extension to put
the oil pump shaft itself in different orientations
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My next attempts will involve
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- having someone else push down while I turn the
crap with a ratchet
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- trying to pack some grease around the shaft with
a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the oil
pump shaft more centered
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Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or words
of wisdom.
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Cheers in advance,
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Rick
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>Sounds like good advice! But when the socket comes off =C2=A0of the =
extension and falls down into the pan, gonna have to remove it anyway. =
Or if you use a priming tool, yeah even better, wont it fall down the =
hole=E2=80=A6 =C2=A0<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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>Again, good advice!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Gary<br><b>Sent:</b> 13 August 2020 07:18<br><b>To:</b> =
rflynn@alum.rpi.edu<br><b>Cc:</b> =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Distributor -> =
Oil Pump Shaft<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Missing clip is bad, it can fall into the =
pan.<br>You can get the pan off in the car.. I think you might have to =
take out the starter and re-gasket it.<br>I would try more to to re-seat =
it or get the distributor back first.<br>It should turn pretty easily =
when in the pump though, should be some drag though.<br>I have a special =
tool to spin it but a socket should work.. put a drill on it an =
see if you can spin it<br>to get oil pressure. Drill needs to be =
on reverse. You'll get more resistance at =
speed.<br>Gary<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
8/13/2020 5:45 AM, R Flynn via Tigers =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>A bit more diagnostic =
information<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>- when I =
run a stiff hanger wire down the side of the shaft, I do not feel the =
retaining clip that should be present<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- Beveled edge does visually appear to be at the =
top<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>- There is no residue =
in the distributor shaft (i.e. does seem like the last person in there =
stuck the shaft into the distributor just to get it to =
seat)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>- I can get a socket =
on the oil pump shaft and spin it but there is zero resistance, not sure =
if that is normal?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
am a bit concerned that the shaft has come unseated from the oil pump at =
the bottom end given there does not appear to be any retaining clip =
& it leans over against the wall of the hole it is =
in.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Starting to wonder if I should drop the oil pan (which =
I believe I can do without removing the entire engine, appreciate any =
input on that) and do things properly.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, Aug 12, 2020 at 9:40 PM Gary <<a =
href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br><br>Sometimes they are just =
difficult...<br><br><br>IIRC, one time we could see the drive shaft was =
off to one side. We<br><br>jacked the car on that side so it =
leaned to the other side<br><br><br>which made it more =
vertical...<br><br><br>Good =
luck,<br><br><br>Gary<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p=
></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On =
8/12/2020 4:47 PM, R Flynn via<br><br>Tigers =
wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquot=
e style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>In trying to replace the distributor =
after<br><br>changing my intake manifold on the =E2=80=9865 289 in my =
Tiger, I am<br><br>struggling to get it to slide down over the oil pump =
shaft,<br><br>which seems to be leaning over.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- tried jiggling the rotor<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- tried turning the crank with a ratchet =
while<br><br>applying gentle pressure to the distributor, though I was =
doing<br><br>both<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- tried using a long socket & extension to =
put<br><br>the oil pump shaft itself in different =
orientations<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My next attempts will involve<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- having someone else push down while I turn =
the<br><br>crap with a ratchet<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>- trying to pack some grease around the shaft =
with<br><br>a screwdriver prior to inserting the distributor to keep the =
oil<br><br>pump shaft more centered<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Would welcome any suggestions, solutions, or =
words<br><br>of wisdom.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cheers in advance,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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