Bob, I STILL do not agree. MY information is based on personal
experience with the cars while working at the dealer (Auto Engineering
in Lexington Mass.) in the very early 50s. ALL the cars were fitted as
I've described. For those with more recent MG experience it is very easy
to fall into the trap of believing the printed word - especially when
it's the service manual!!!
For a clear example of the problem: If you look at the exploded diagram
of the TD/TF transmission on page F4, you'll see that the 1/2 gear hub
has continuous splines between the detents. That was the original intent
and so drawn by the artist in 1949. Cost factors made the factory go to
the simpler, cheaper, annular groove - which wore and caused gear
"rock", noise, and rapid wear. When Al Moss showed me his first
prototype repro hub in the early 70s while I was in his office, I
commented about that and he protested that he "had it made from the
production drawings". I showed him the difference (which I had asked
about and researched at the factory in the late 60s) and he subsequently
changed them to the original design. This makes first gear much stronger
and longer lasting when the hub is changed during a rebuild, but the
whole process illustrates how you cannot necessarily believe the words
and drawings in the factory manuals. Jarl
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Carolyn & Bob Grunau wrote:
>
> Jarl, sorry but I disagree with you on the routing of the carb overflow
> pipes on the TD.
> I always thought they passed OVER the front engine bearer plate, had a 90
> degree bend down and were held by a single P ( or d ) clip which holds both
> pipes side by side and bolts to the 8.0 mm bolt holding the front bearer
> plate to the block on the outside of the timing cover. We agree on the
> clip.
> The TC pipes were similarily routed.
> For the TD, as a reference, check out page D-1 of the factory TD Workshop
> Manual, figure D-2 clearly shows the pipes routed on top of the front
> bearer plate and then down the front.
> For the TC, Refer to Instruction Manual for the MG Midget ( Series TC ),
> page 43, illustration no. 18 also clearly shows the overflow pipes routed
> over the front bearer plate and then down the front.
> It is possible that other routings were used, but as a first reference, I
> think the official factory manuals are most correct.
> Regards, Bob Grunau
> ----------
> > From: Jarl&CaroldeBoer <deboer@pacbell.net>
> > To: ROBERT G. HOWARD <mgbob@juno.com>
> > Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: TD carb overflows
> > Date: April 29, 1998 22:43
> >
> > Sorry Bob, that is NOT correct. If that is what you found, someone had
> > already changed it. The clamp is lower case "d" shaped, in brass and the
> > pipes originally went THROUGH the front engine bearer plate. Jarl de
> > Boer
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > ROBERT G. HOWARD wrote:
> > >
> > > Steve,
> > > They run from the carb bowls forward and down toward the forward
> engine
> > > mounting plate. After passing over it, they then bend to straight down,
> > > and are clamped my a little "M" shaped piece that has a bolt through
> > > the middle. If you see an empty hole in the plate, one that appears to
> > > accept about a 3/16" bolt (but it's the ww size, of course) that's the
> > > hole.
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 08:31:03 -0400 Steven Tritle <stritle@epix.net>
> > > writes:
> > > >Is there a clamp to hold the carb overflow tubes to the frame or do
> > > >they
> > > >simply "hang free"?
> > > >Steve
> > > >52 TD
> > > >
> > > >
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