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Bill or anyone else,=20
Does anyone know where I can get a 100 4 oil pan. The machine shop"lost" mi=
ne. Thanks.=20
Regards,=20
Charlie=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" <ynotink@msn.com>=20
To: "Steven Kingsbury via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>, "Michael MacLe=
an" <rrengineer.mike@att.net>=20
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 10:10:12 AM=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!=20
I=E2=80=99ve always preferred garage time to ball games anyway.=20
Bill Lawrence=20
BN1 #554=20
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Steven Kingsbur=
y via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2020 12:19:19 AM=20
To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>=20
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!=20
I've got a guy who builds engines for Bonneville advising me, so if he says=
, hone the cylinders, I will, if he says they look fine, I'm going to take =
his word for it. As far as the clutch, the little I did drive her, that fel=
t really good and if I'm going to do the clutch, I will pull the transmissi=
on through the cockpit and do it that way. Done that before and that's just=
a day job.=20
As far as everything else, no leaks so why take things apart when they're n=
ot leaking? Rocker assembly seemed actually nice and tight and solid, so th=
e etc, etc, etc will be done if needed, if not needed, it won't. I'm not go=
ing half ass, but I'm also not creating work just because I'm here. Now if =
I find the crank is a mess, well then, that's a whole new ball game and it =
will be dealt with. And since we don't have any ball games left right now, =
it will still be fun.=20
Steven Kingsbury=20
On March 12, 2020 at 4:32 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> wro=
te:=20
Not honing the cylinders? While it's apart, how old is the clutch? Rocker a=
ssembly? Thrust rings? Seals. front and rear, etc., etc.=20
Mike MacLean=20
On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 4:29:26 PM PDT, Steven Kingsbury via Healeys <=
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
Latest update, took the head to a friend's machine shop and took the valves=
out. All the intake vales had build up of soft carbon, a sign of burning o=
il I was told and I'm going to have to also pull the pistons to redo the ri=
ngs. Fun, but I'm here, so why not? I'm also going to get new valve guides =
pressed in and replace the ones in the head as the valves seem to rock a bi=
t going up and down. The head though is not warped and is straight, but I w=
ill get it checked out for cracks and resurface the head to make it super s=
mooth.=20
I'm also going to drop the pan, and push the pistons out of the block and r=
eplace the rings. And yes, I will plastiguage the crank to make sure it's i=
n good shape and install new rod bearings when in there.=20
I am also going to remove the tappet cover and take a good, hard, close up =
look at all the lifters to make sure that's not a problem. Right now, in fo=
r a penny, in for a pound. Sterling that is.=20
Basically, I'm making sure everything is correct this time and then I will =
have no one but me to blame if it doesn't work. But all in all, it seems pr=
etty simple. So stay tuned for further updates as they happen.=20
Thanks for all the input, suggestions and guesses. This is actually quite t=
he fun project.=20
Steven Kingsbury=20
On March 12, 2020 at 12:38 PM, John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com> wrote:=
=20
<blockquote>
Hank=20
The fact that number 2 exhaust valve is not the same colour as the others m=
ight be a clue. Maybe it is not closing fully? It would be worth checking f=
or a stuck valve guide, broken spring or just lost clearance. A partially s=
eized rocker is possible but not likely. This may not be the problem but it=
would not take much effort to pull the valve out and check for any burning=
on the working face.=20
Best regards=20
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 18:18, < gradea1@charter.net > wrote:=20
<blockquote>
Hi Steven-good to hear from you!=20
That's a nice test, but I would magnaflux the head for cracks between 2-3 a=
nd have it shaved flat..could be a head gasket leak due to warped head...es=
pecially if valves and rings checked good.=20
Also, I don't recommend NGK plugs- use Champion N-5...maybe cause of carbon=
on valves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring broken or tappet rods bent/bro=
ken, problem is in head-block fit.=20
Regards, Hank Leach=20
----------------------------------------- From: "Steven Kingsbury via Heale=
ys"=20
To: healeys@autox.teamnet=20
Cc:=20
Sent: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM=20
Subject: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!=20
Okay, here's the latest! I finally got to pull my head If you remember, I h=
ad 155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 and only 25 lbs in cylinder=
number two. So with the head off, I was prepared to find a problem with I =
flipped it over to expose the valves, no such luck. Other than number two e=
xhaust valve being a bit black, no cracks, nothing stuck and it looked fine=
. So then I went to look into the cylinders themselves, walls smooth, flat =
high compression pistons smooth, number three a bit rough on the top, but o=
ther than that and good.=20
So then I went back to the head, put the spark plugs back in and filled the=
combustion chambers with paint thinner to see where it would leak out. Fil=
led each chamber evenly and waited. Twelve hours later, and other than evap=
oration, no leaks! All chambers still even in their fluid retention.=20
So then I rotated the crank to get all the pistons to an almost even positi=
on and put paint thinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak,=
not one cylinder faster than the others and all the fluid finally drained =
out smoothly and evenly in each cylinder.=20
I'm a bit stumped. My next step is taking the head to a guy in town, an old=
machinist who builds his own engines and runs his car at Bonneville in the=
300 mph range. He knows what he's doing and I'm sure he will give me some =
sage advice and help. Also as a side note, I went over the head with a magn=
ifying glass and can see now cracks, but that doesn't mean they are not the=
re I know. I was just thinking with a 100 pound plus difference, something =
would be obvious.=20
I am also going to be taking off the tappet cover on the side, inspect all =
the lifters and see what I can find there. Like I said, I'm a bit perplexed=
, but I'm not done. I will find something wrong! Here are some photos for y=
ou, maybe you can see something I can't.=20
Here's the head, upside down and you can see the exhaust valve on number tw=
o is blacker than the others, but no cracks, chips, or visible damage.=20
And here's the fluid I placed in the combustion chambers. It didn't drain o=
ut and just sat there.=20
_______________________________________________=20
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archiv=
e=20
Healeys@autox.team.net=20
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys=20
ster@gmail.com=20
--=20
Best wishes=20
John Harper=20
AHC UK 100 Register Secretary=20
</blockquote>
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e=20
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r.mike@att.net=20
</blockquote>
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: times new roman, new york, times, se=
rif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div>Bill or anyone else,</div><div><=
br></div><div>Does anyone know where I can get a 100 4 oil pan. The machine=
shop"lost" mine. Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br><=
/div><div>Charlie</div><div><br></div><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"color:=
#000;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none;font-family:=
Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000; =
font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family=
: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"WILLIAM B LAW=
RENCE" <ynotink@msn.com><br><b>To: </b>"Steven Kingsbury via Healeys"=
<healeys@autox.team.net>, "Michael MacLean" <rrengineer.mike@att.=
net><br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, March 13, 2020 10:10:12 AM<br><b>Subject: <=
/b>Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!<br><div><br></div>I=E2=80=99=
ve always preferred garage time to ball games anyway.<br> <br> Bill Lawrenc=
e<br> BN1 #554<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" data-mce-style=
=3D"display: inline-block; width: 98%;"><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"lt=
r"><span face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" data-mce-style=3D"font-size: 11pt; co=
lor: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" color=3D"#000000"><b>Fro=
m:</b> Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Steven K=
ingsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net><br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday=
, March 13, 2020 12:19:19 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Michael MacLean <rrengineer.=
mike@att.net><br> <b>Cc:</b> healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.te=
am.net><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!<=
/span><div> </div></div><div><div>I've got a guy who builds engines fo=
r Bonneville advising me, so if he says, hone the cylinders, I will, if he =
says they look fine, I'm going to take his word for it. As far as the clutc=
h, the little I did drive her, that felt really good and if I'm going to do=
the clutch, I will pull the transmission through the cockpit and do it tha=
t way. Done that before and that's just a day job. </div><div> &n=
bsp; As far as everything else, no leaks so why take things apart when=
they're not leaking? Rocker assembly seemed actually nice and tight and so=
lid, so the etc, etc, etc will be done if needed, if not needed, it won't. =
I'm not going half ass, but I'm also not creating work just because I'm her=
e. Now if I find the crank is a mess, well then, that's a whole new ball ga=
me and it will be dealt with. And since we don't have any ball games left r=
ight now, it will still be fun.</div><div>Steven Kingsbury</div><div><br> O=
n March 12, 2020 at 4:32 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>=
; wrote:<br> <br></div><div><blockquote><div class=3D"x_msg-quote"><div cla=
ss=3D"x_ydpb203a435yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:times new roman,n=
ew york,times,serif; font-size:16px" data-mce-style=3D"font-family: times n=
ew roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 16px;"><div><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Not honing the cylinders? While it's apart, how old is the clut=
ch? Rocker assembly? Thrust rings? Seals. front and rear,=
etc., etc.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLe=
an<br></div><div><br></div></div><div id=3D"x_yahoo_quoted_4280499502" clas=
s=3D"x_yahoo_quoted"><div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,A=
rial,sans-serif; font-size:13px; color:#26282a" data-mce-style=3D"font-fami=
ly: 'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: #2=
6282a;"><div>On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 4:29:26 PM PDT, Steven Kingsbury =
via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div><div id=3D"x_yiv7423198322"><div><div>Latest update, took th=
e head to a friend's machine shop and took the valves out. All the intake v=
ales had build up of soft carbon, a sign of burning oil I was told and I'm =
going to have to also pull the pistons to redo the rings. Fun, but I'm here=
, so why not? I'm also going to get new valve guides pressed in and replace=
the ones in the head as the valves seem to rock a bit going up and down. T=
he head though is not warped and is straight, but I will get it checked out=
for cracks and resurface the head to make it super smooth.</div><div> =
; I'm also going to drop the pan, and push the pistons out of th=
e block and replace the rings. And yes, I will plastiguage the crank to mak=
e sure it's in good shape and install new rod bearings when in there. =
</div><div> I am also going to remove the tappet cover and=
take a good, hard, close up look at all the lifters to make sure that's no=
t a problem. Right now, in for a penny, in for a pound. Sterling that is.</=
div><div> Basically, I'm making sure everything is correct=
this time and then I will have no one but me to blame if it doesn't work. =
But all in all, it seems pretty simple. So stay tuned for further updates a=
s they happen.</div><div> Thanks for all the input, sugges=
tions and guesses. This is actually quite the fun project.</div><div>Steven=
Kingsbury</div><div> </div><div class=3D"x_yiv7423198322=
yqt7376103525" id=3D"x_yiv7423198322yqt91169"><div><br clear=3D"none"> On M=
arch 12, 2020 at 12:38 PM, John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com> wrot=
e:<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"></div><div><blockquote><div class=
=3D"x_yiv7423198322msg-quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hank<div><br clear=3D"none">=
</div><div>The fact that number 2 exhaust valve is not the same colour=
as the others might be a clue. Maybe it is not closing fully? It would be =
worth checking for a stuck valve guide, broken spring or just lost cl=
earance. A partially seized rocker is possible but not likely. This may not=
be the problem but it would not take much effort to pull the valve out and=
check for any burning on the working face.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div>Best regards</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"x_yiv7423=
198322gmail_quote"><div class=3D"x_yiv7423198322gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr">On =
Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 18:18, <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"m=
ailto:gradea1@charter.net" target=3D"_blank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:gradea=
1@charter.net">gradea1@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><=
blockquote class=3D"x_yiv7423198322gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.8ex; border-left:1px solid #cccccc; padding-left:1ex" data-mce-style=3D"=
margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #cccccc; padding-left: 1e=
x;"><div>Hi Steven-good to hear from you!<p>That's a nice test, but I would=
magnaflux the head for cracks between 2-3 and have it shaved flat..could b=
e a head gasket leak due to warped head...especially if valves and rings ch=
ecked good.</p><p>Also, I don't recommend NGK plugs- use Champion N-5=
...maybe cause of carbon on valves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring broken=
or tappet rods bent/broken, problem is in head-block fit.</p><p>Regards, H=
ank Leach<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"></p><div><br clear=3D"none"=
></div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: "Steven Kingsb=
ury via Healeys" <span data-mce-style=3D"text-decoration: underline;" style=
=3D"text-decoration: underline;"></span><br clear=3D"none"> To: <a rel=3D"n=
ofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.teamnet" target=3D"_bl=
ank" data-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.teamnet">healeys@autox.teamnet</=
a><br clear=3D"none"> Cc: <br clear=3D"none"> Sent: Thursday March 12 2020 =
9:40:25AM<br clear=3D"none"> Subject: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part tw=
o!<br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div><div style=3D"color:#000000; =
font-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:15px;=
font-style:normal; font-weight:300; letter-spacing:normal; text-indent:0px=
; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoratio=
n-color:initial" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'H=
elvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; f=
ont-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-color: initia=
l;">Okay, here's the latest! I finally got to pull my head If you remember,=
I had 155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 and only 25 lbs in cyli=
nder number two. So with the head off, I was prepared to find a problem wit=
h I flipped it over to expose the valves, no such luck. Other than number t=
wo exhaust valve being a bit black, no cracks, nothing stuck and it looked =
fine. So then I went to look into the cylinders themselves, walls smooth, f=
lat high compression pistons smooth, number three a bit rough on the top, b=
ut other than that and good.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000; font-family:=
SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:15px; font-style:=
normal; font-weight:300; letter-spacing:normal; text-indent:0px; text-trans=
form:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration-color:init=
ial" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neu=
e',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-weight: =
300; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-=
space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-color: initial;"> &n=
bsp; So then I went back to the head, put the spark plugs back in and =
filled the combustion chambers with paint thinner to see where it would lea=
k out. Filled each chamber evenly and waited. Twelve hours later, and other=
than evaporation, no leaks! All chambers still even in their fluid retenti=
on. </div><div style=3D"color:#000000; font-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica=
Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:15px; font-style:normal; font-weight=
:300; letter-spacing:normal; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-sp=
ace:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration-color:initial" data-mce-style=
=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-s=
erif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing=
: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word=
-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-color: initial;"> So then I=
rotated the crank to get all the pistons to an almost even position and pu=
t paint thinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak, not one =
cylinder faster than the others and all the fluid finally drained out smoot=
hly and evenly in each cylinder. </div><div style=3D"color:#000000; fo=
nt-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:15px; f=
ont-style:normal; font-weight:300; letter-spacing:normal; text-indent:0px; =
text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration-=
color:initial" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Hel=
vetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; fon=
t-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: no=
ne; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-color: initial;=
"> I'm a bit stumped. My next step is taking the head to a=
guy in town, an old machinist who builds his own engines and runs his car =
at Bonneville in the 300 mph range. He knows what he's doing and I'm sure h=
e will give me some sage advice and help. Also as a side note, I went over =
the head with a magnifying glass and can see now cracks, but that doesn't m=
ean they are not there I know. I was just thinking with a 100 pound plus di=
fference, something would be obvious. </div><div style=3D"color:#00000=
0; font-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:15=
px; font-style:normal; font-weight:300; letter-spacing:normal; text-indent:=
0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decora=
tion-color:initial" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText=
,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal=
; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transfor=
m: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-color: ini=
tial;"> I am also going to be taking off the tappet cover =
on the side, inspect all the lifters and see what I can find there. Like I =
said, I'm a bit perplexed, but I'm not done. I will find something wrong! H=
ere are some photos for you, maybe you can see something I can't.</div><div=
style=3D"color:#000000; font-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif; font-size:15px; font-style:normal; font-weight:300; letter-spacin=
g:normal; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-sp=
acing:0px; text-decoration-color:initial" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000;=
font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15=
px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-inde=
nt: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text=
-decoration-color: initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"color:#=
000000; font-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-si=
ze:15px; font-style:normal; font-weight:300; letter-spacing:normal; text-in=
dent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-d=
ecoration-color:initial" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFN=
SText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: n=
ormal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-tra=
nsform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; text-decoration-color=
: initial;"><img alt=3D"IMG_20200311_143602.jpg" title=3D"IMG_20200311_1436=
02.jpg" style=3D"margin:10px 10px 10px 0px" pnsrc=3D"http:///index.php/inbo=
x/attachment/filenameOriginal/IMG_20200311_143602.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX37806=
df7c51cc87def12df6be1eff39641fa0" data-mce-style=3D"margin: 10px 10px 10px =
0px;"></div><div style=3D"color:#000000; font-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica Ne=
ue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:15px; font-style:normal; font-weight:30=
0; letter-spacing:normal; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space=
:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration-color:initial" data-mce-style=3D=
"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-seri=
f; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; font-weight: 300; letter-spacing: n=
ormal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-sp=
acing: 0px; text-decoration-color: initial;">Here's the head, upside down a=
nd you can see the exhaust valve on number two is blacker than the others, =
but no cracks, chips, or visible damage.</div><div style=3D"color:#000000; =
font-family:SFNSText,'Helvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size:15px;=
font-style:normal; font-weight:300; letter-spacing:normal; text-indent:0px=
; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoratio=
n-color:initial" data-mce-style=3D"color: #000000; font-family: SFNSText,'H=
elvetica Neue',Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 15px; font-style: normal; f=
ont-weight: 300; letter-spacing: normal; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
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