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Not honing the cylinders?=C2=A0 While it's apart, how old is the clutch?=
=C2=A0 Rocker assembly?=C2=A0 Thrust rings?=C2=A0 Seals. front and rear, et=
c., etc.
Mike MacLean
On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 4:29:26 PM PDT, Steven Kingsbury via Heale=
ys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Latest update, took the head to a friend's machine shop and took the valve=
s out. All the intake vales had build up of soft carbon, a sign of burning =
oil I was told and I'm going to have to also pull the pistons to redo the r=
ings. Fun, but I'm here, so why not? I'm also going to get new valve guides=
pressed in and replace the ones in the head as the valves seem to rock a b=
it going up and down. The head though is not warped and is straight, but I =
will get it checked out for cracks and resurface the head to make it super =
smooth.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I'm also going to drop the pan, and push the pisto=
ns out of the block and replace the rings. And yes, I will plastiguage the =
crank to make sure it's in good shape and install new rod bearings when in =
there.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I am also going to remove the tappet cover an=
d take a good, hard, close up look at all the lifters to make sure that's n=
ot a problem. Right now, in for a penny, in for a pound. Sterling that is.=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Basically, I'm making sure everything is correct this tim=
e and then I will have no one but me to blame if it doesn't work. But all i=
n all, it seems pretty simple. So stay tuned for further updates as they ha=
ppen.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Thanks for all the input, suggestions and guesses. T=
his is actually quite the fun project.Steven Kingsbury=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0
On March 12, 2020 at 12:38 PM, John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com> wrote:
Hank
The fact that number 2 exhaust valve=C2=A0is not the same colour as the oth=
ers might be a clue. Maybe it is not closing fully? It would be worth check=
ing for a stuck valve guide, broken spring or just lost=C2=A0 clearance. A =
partially seized rocker is possible but not likely. This may not be the pro=
blem but it would not take much effort to pull the valve out and check for =
any burning on the working face.
Best regards
On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 18:18, <gradea1@charter.net> wrote:
Hi Steven-good to hear from you!
That's a nice test, but I would magnaflux the head for cracks between 2-3 a=
nd have it shaved flat..could be a head gasket leak due to warped head...es=
pecially if valves and rings checked good.
Also, I don't recommend=C2=A0 NGK plugs- use Champion N-5...maybe cause of =
carbon on valves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring broken or tappet rods be=
nt/broken, problem is in head-block fit.
Regards, Hank Leach
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From: "Steven Kingsbury via Healeys"=20
To: healeys@autox.teamnet
Cc:=20
Sent: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM
Subject: [Healeys] Four cylinder woes, part two!
Okay, here's the latest! I finally got to pull my head If you remember, I h=
ad 155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, 3, and 4 and only 25 lbs in cylinder=
number two. So with the head off, I was prepared to find a problem with I =
flipped it over to expose the valves, no such luck. Other than number two e=
xhaust valve being a bit black, no cracks, nothing stuck and it looked fine=
. So then I went to look into the cylinders themselves, walls smooth, flat =
high compression pistons smooth, number three a bit rough on the top, but o=
ther than that and good.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So then I went back to the head, =
put the spark plugs back in and filled the combustion chambers with paint t=
hinner to see where it would leak out. Filled each chamber evenly and waite=
d. Twelve hours later, and other than evaporation, no leaks! All chambers s=
till even in their fluid retention.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0So then I rotate=
d the crank to get all the pistons to an almost even position and put paint=
thinner in the cylinders at the same depth. No quick leak, not one cylinde=
r faster than the others and all the fluid finally drained out smoothly and=
evenly in each cylinder.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I'm a bit stumped. My next=
step is taking the head to a guy in town, an old machinist who builds his =
own engines and runs his car at Bonneville in the 300 mph range. He knows w=
hat he's doing and I'm sure he will give me some sage advice and help. Also=
as a side note, I went over the head with a magnifying glass and can see n=
ow cracks, but that doesn't mean they are not there I know. I was just thin=
king with a 100 pound plus difference, something would be obvious.=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I am also going to be taking off the tappet cover on the sid=
e, inspect all the lifters and see what I can find there. Like I said, I'm =
a bit perplexed, but I'm not done. I will find something wrong! Here are so=
me photos for you, maybe you can see something I can't.
Here's the head, upside down and you can see the exhaust valve on number tw=
o is blacker than the others, but no cracks, chips, or visible damage.And h=
ere's the fluid I placed in the combustion chambers. It didn't drain out an=
d just sat there.
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Not honing the cylinders?&nb=
sp; While it's apart, how old is the clutch? Rocker assembly? T=
hrust rings? Seals. front and rear, etc., etc.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
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On Thursday, March 12, 2020, 4:29:26 PM PDT, Steven Kin=
gsbury via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"yiv7423198322"><div><div>Latest update, too=
k the head to a friend's machine shop and took the valves out. All the inta=
ke vales had build up of soft carbon, a sign of burning oil I was told and =
I'm going to have to also pull the pistons to redo the rings. Fun, but I'm =
here, so why not? I'm also going to get new valve guides pressed in and rep=
lace the ones in the head as the valves seem to rock a bit going up and dow=
n. The head though is not warped and is straight, but I will get it checked=
out for cracks and resurface the head to make it super smooth.</div><div>&=
nbsp; I'm also going to drop the pan, and push the pistons out o=
f the block and replace the rings. And yes, I will plastiguage the crank to=
make sure it's in good shape and install new rod bearings when in there.&n=
bsp;</div><div> I am also going to remove the tappet cover=
and take a good, hard, close up look at all the lifters to make sure that'=
s not a problem. Right now, in for a penny, in for a pound. Sterling that i=
s.</div><div> Basically, I'm making sure everything is cor=
rect this time and then I will have no one but me to blame if it doesn't wo=
rk. But all in all, it seems pretty simple. So stay tuned for further updat=
es as they happen.</div><div> Thanks for all the input, su=
ggestions and guesses. This is actually quite the fun project.</div><div>St=
even Kingsbury</div><div> </div><div class=3D"yiv74231983=
22yqt7376103525" id=3D"yiv7423198322yqt91169"><div><br clear=3D"none">On Ma=
rch 12, 2020 at 12:38 PM, John Harper <ah100register@gmail.com> wrote=
:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
><div class=3D"yiv7423198322msg-quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hank<div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>The fact that number 2 exhaust valve is not the s=
ame colour as the others might be a clue. Maybe it is not closing fully? It=
would be worth checking for a stuck valve guide, broken spring or just los=
t clearance. A partially seized rocker is possible but not likely. Th=
is may not be the problem but it would not take much effort to pull the val=
ve out and check for any burning on the working face.</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>Best regards</div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=
=3D"yiv7423198322gmail_quote"><div class=3D"yiv7423198322gmail_attr" dir=3D=
"ltr">On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 18:18, <<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:gra=
dea1@charter.net">gradea1@charter.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><blockquote class=3D"yiv7423198322gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0p=
x 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #cccccc;padding-left:1ex;"><div>Hi Steven-goo=
d to hear from you!<p>That's a nice test, but I would magnaflux the head fo=
r cracks between 2-3 and have it shaved flat..could be a head gasket leak d=
ue to warped head...especially if valves and rings checked good.</p><p>Also=
, I don't recommend NGK plugs- use Champion N-5...maybe cause of carb=
on on valves. Unless cam is flat, valve spring broken or tappet rods bent/b=
roken, problem is in head-block fit.</p><p>Regards, Hank Leach<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"></p><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><p>-------------=
----------------------------</p>From: "Steven Kingsbury via Healeys" <u></u=
><br clear=3D"none">To: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:healeys@autox.teamnet" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
mnet">healeys@autox.teamnet</a><br clear=3D"none">Cc: <br clear=3D"none">Se=
nt: Thursday March 12 2020 9:40:25AM<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [Healeys] F=
our cylinder woes, part two!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div><div=
style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, =
sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:=
normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:=
0px;text-decoration-color:initial;">Okay, here's the latest! I finally got =
to pull my head If you remember, I had 155 lbs of pressure in cylinders 1, =
3, and 4 and only 25 lbs in cylinder number two. So with the head off, I wa=
s prepared to find a problem with I flipped it over to expose the valves, n=
o such luck. Other than number two exhaust valve being a bit black, no crac=
ks, nothing stuck and it looked fine. So then I went to look into the cylin=
ders themselves, walls smooth, flat high compression pistons smooth, number=
three a bit rough on the top, but other than that and good.</div><div styl=
e=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-=
serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:norma=
l;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;t=
ext-decoration-color:initial;"> So then I went back to the=
head, put the spark plugs back in and filled the combustion chambers with =
paint thinner to see where it would leak out. Filled each chamber evenly an=
d waited. Twelve hours later, and other than evaporation, no leaks! All cha=
mbers still even in their fluid retention. </div><div style=3D"color:#=
000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-s=
ize:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-inden=
t:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decorati=
on-color:initial;"> So then I rotated the crank to get all=
the pistons to an almost even position and put paint thinner in the cylind=
ers at the same depth. No quick leak, not one cylinder faster than the othe=
rs and all the fluid finally drained out smoothly and evenly in each cylind=
er. </div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica=
Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:=
300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:n=
ormal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"> I'=
m a bit stumped. My next step is taking the head to a guy in town, an old m=
achinist who builds his own engines and runs his car at Bonneville in the 3=
00 mph range. He knows what he's doing and I'm sure he will give me some sa=
ge advice and help. Also as a side note, I went over the head with a magnif=
ying glass and can see now cracks, but that doesn't mean they are not there=
I know. I was just thinking with a 100 pound plus difference, something wo=
uld be obvious. </div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText=
, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;=
font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;w=
hite-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"> &n=
bsp; I am also going to be taking off the tappet cover on the side, in=
spect all the lifters and see what I can find there. Like I said, I'm a bit=
perplexed, but I'm not done. I will find something wrong! Here are some ph=
otos for you, maybe you can see something I can't.</div><div style=3D"color=
:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font=
-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-ind=
ent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decora=
tion-color:initial;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"color:#000000;f=
ont-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px=
;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;te=
xt-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color=
:initial;"><img src=3D"http:///index.php/inbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/=
IMG_20200311_143602.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX37806df7c51cc87def12df6be1eff39641f=
a0" alt=3D"IMG_20200311_143602.jpg" title=3D"IMG_20200311_143602.jpg" style=
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ly:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-st=
yle:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-trans=
form:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial=
;">Here's the head, upside down and you can see the exhaust valve on number=
two is blacker than the others, but no cracks, chips, or visible damage.</=
div><div style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Hel=
vetica, sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-=
spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-=
spacing:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;"><img src=3D"http:///index.php/i=
nbox/attachment/filenameOriginal/IMG_20200311_172123.jpg/filenamefs/INBOX37=
8063dbbf369419c0843730f10637ee2493c" alt=3D"IMG_20200311_172123.jpg" title=
=3D"IMG_20200311_172123.jpg" style=3D"margin:10px 10px 10px 0px;"></div><di=
v style=3D"color:#000000;font-family:SFNSText, 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica,=
sans-serif;font-size:15px;font-style:normal;font-weight:300;letter-spacing=
:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing=
:0px;text-decoration-color:initial;">And here's the fluid I placed in the c=
ombustion chambers. It didn't drain out and just sat there.</div></div><u><=
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