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Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Bleeding brakes
From: Larry Varley <varley@cosmos.net.au>
Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 20:00:27 +1000
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Hi Kees, obviously I mistook this for a Healey specific list :) 
generalized comments can be misleading to those that look for good 
advise from the list. No offense intended.
Cheers
Larry Varley

On 8/07/2015 6:59 PM, Oudesluys wrote:
> Hi Larry,
> Not a rare occurrence in BN1, but a BN1 is a rare occurrence on its 
> own in the car world;-) . Most brake circuits are properly designed to 
> make bleeding the system an easy straight forward job.
> Same problems on some old Landrovers.
> Cheers,
> Kees Oudesluijs
>
>
>
> Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 10:22:
>> Kees, this is not a rare occurrence in a BN1, stop and take a look at 
>> the BN1 front wheel cylinder layout. If the brakes are not de 
>> adjusted there is an air pocket in the wheel cylinders above the 
>> height of the bleed screw. The air will be very difficult to bleed 
>> out as it is trapped. I have advised many to do this and they found 
>> an immediate improvement in the bleeding process and improvement in 
>> pedal firmness.
>> Regards
>> Larry Varley
>>
>> On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM, Oudesluys wrote:
>>> I have used an Eezibleed or similar lightly pressurized system for 
>>> over 50 years and it has always worked for me on a very large range 
>>> of vehicles.
>>> A one man job that is done efficiently and quickly.
>>> As remarked before, it is generally a good idea to adjust back your 
>>> drum brakes and push back the calliper pistons (using e few small 
>>> wedges between pads and discs) to minimise the volume in the brake 
>>> cylinders and callipers if the bleed nipples are positioned in such 
>>> a way that air can remain trapped in the cylinders or callipers, 
>>> although this is a fairly rare occurrence.
>>>
>>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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    Hi Kees, obviously I mistook this for a Healey specific list :)
    generalized comments can be misleading to those that look for good
    advise from the list. No offense intended.<br>
    Cheers<br>
    Larry Varley<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/07/2015 6:59 PM, Oudesluys wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Larry,<br>
        Not a rare occurrence in BN1, but a BN1 is a rare occurrence on
        its own in the car world<span class="moz-smiley-s3"><span> ;-) 
</span></span>.
        Most brake circuits are properly designed to make bleeding the
        system an easy straight forward job.<br>
        Same problems on some old Landrovers.<br>
        Cheers,<br>
        Kees Oudesluijs<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Larry Varley schreef op 8-7-2015 om 10:22:<br>
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        Kees, this is not a rare occurrence in a BN1, stop and take a
        look at the BN1 front wheel cylinder layout. If the brakes are
        not de adjusted there is an air pocket in the wheel cylinders
        above the height of the bleed screw. The air will be very
        difficult to bleed out as it is trapped. I have advised many to
        do this and they found an immediate improvement in the bleeding
        process and improvement in pedal firmness. <br>
        Regards<br>
        Larry Varley<br>
        <br>
        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/07/2015 4:44 PM, Oudesluys
          wrote:<br>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">I have used an Eezibleed or
            similar lightly pressurized system for over 50 years and it
            has always worked for me on a very large range of vehicles.
            <br>
            A one man job that is done efficiently and quickly.<br>
            As remarked before, it is generally a good idea to adjust
            back your drum brakes and push back the calliper pistons
            (using e few small wedges between pads and discs) to
            minimise the volume in the brake cylinders and callipers if
            the bleed nipples are positioned in such a way that air can
            remain trapped in the cylinders or callipers, although this
            is a fairly rare occurrence.<br>
            <br>
            Kees Oudesluijs<br>
            <br>
            <br>
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