--===============0037023743153353287==
boundary="Apple-Mail=_6B3432E5-12CB-437E-9AE0-CD8BA587A10C"
--Apple-Mail=_6B3432E5-12CB-437E-9AE0-CD8BA587A10C
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
charset=utf-8
I=E2=80=99d say =E2=80=9Cwho buys F250=E2=80=9Ds?? The cost difference =
for an F350 is trivial, especially if you buy one off the lot instead of =
ordering. I tow my Airstream toy hauler with mine, it=E2=80=99s the =
second F350 I=E2=80=99ve owned. My first one developed a serious oil =
leak that would have required removing the cab ?!!? to fix. I gather =
that removing the cab is=E2=80=99t the worst job in to world, but all =
this happened when I needed my truck in a week, so I traded it in and =
got a 2018 F350. The new one came right off the lot (I was in a hurry) =
and didn=E2=80=99t have all the fancy shit my previous one had. But =
it=E2=80=99s a MUCH better truck, though I can=E2=80=99t park it for =
shit. It=E2=80=99s a twin cab with an eight foot bed. So long, as in =
REALLY long. I think it=E2=80=99s 22=E2=80=99. Hook it up to Fritz, my =
34=E2=80=99 Airstream Peyote Hauler, and it=E2=80=99s a solid city =
block.=20
But the diesel engine is so quiet that people step right in front of me =
in parking lots=E2=80=94they don=E2=80=99t hear me coming. Weird for a =
Diesel. Without the trailer I get 19mpg on freeways. With the trailer I =
get 16 if there aren=E2=80=99t a lot of hills to climb. Keep your foot =
off the accelerator, or better yet, put it in cruise at 65=E2=80=94and =
you=E2=80=99re gold.=20
My next truck will be a maxed out cybertruck.=20
> On Sep 23, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Mike Jackson via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
>=20
> I realize everyone has their own preferred answer. That said:
> I've had our 2000 Ford F350 diesel since it was new. Heck, we've =
killed two trailers in that time. It'll hit 400K miles before the end =
of 2020 as long as we dont have any more races cancelled. It has a =
swaybar hitch that helps but an 18 wheeler passing can still cause it to =
get a upset and require a bit of opposite lock to keep it between the =
whites.
>=20
> It's been quite reliable with the exception of AC systems and =
alternators. I now travel with a spare alt behind the rear seat of our =
crew cab model.
>=20
> Previous tow vehicle was a Suburban. An uphill departure from a fuel =
or lunch stop made a lot of noise but very little movement for a few =
seconds. The F350 diesel is like a mule, say "go" and it does.
>=20
> And yes, it's my around town daily driver.
>=20
> I recall asking my sales guy when we ordered it from the factory if I =
should consider a dually. His reply was that I should only buy such a =
thing if I liked buying rear fenders or was going to tow a 5th wheel =
trailer. Shortly after that I started noticing lots of duallies with =
broken glass rear fenders from trying to turn in places just not quite =
wide enough.
>=20
> Just my experience.
> Mike=20
>=20
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: "Barr, Scott via Fot"=20
> Sent: Sep 23, 2020 1:31 PM=20
> To: Amici Triumphi=20
> Subject: [Fot] Tow Vehicle Musings=20
>=20
> Hi all,
> =20
> I=E2=80=99ve been towing a 24-foot toy-hauler style trailer for a few =
years now. It=E2=80=99s 14 feet of =E2=80=9Cgarage=E2=80=9D space in =
the back and 10 feet of RV in the front (toilet, shower, fridge, kitchen =
area). All in, full of water, car loaded, it weighs about 9,500 lbs. I =
load the trailer so I have about 1,750 pounds of tongue weight, which is =
technically a little over the payload limit of the truck, but not too =
bad.
> =20
> I=E2=80=99ve been towing with a 2017 F-150, with a max tow package =
putting towing capacity at about 12,000 lbs. V6 twin turbo EcoBoost with =
375hp and 470 ft lb torque. I use a good weight-distributing hitch and =
a sway control strut. And I added Air Lift air suspension to help with =
the extra load. Generally speaking, the F-150 has been doing just fine. =
But when it=E2=80=99s windy the trailer gets a little tail-happy, =
wagging enough sometimes to set off the truck=E2=80=99s automatic =
trailer sway alarm (it=E2=80=99s a big baby=E2=80=A6).
> =20
> So I=E2=80=99ve been trying to determine whether moving up to an F-250 =
super duty would make an appreciable difference in the towing =
performance. An F-250 is 1000-1500 pounds heavier than my F-150, =
depending on specs of both trucks. Is that enough to make a noticeable =
difference? Are there other factors that would make it that much better =
than an F-150?
> =20
> The F-150 with the twin turbo V6 and 10-speed trans makes for a nice =
street car, with reasonable mileage (about 19 average) =E2=80=93 and =
it=E2=80=99s what I drive all winter. The F-250 Super Duty will get =
considerably crappier mileage and will be a less friendly daily driver =
(I assume). Not to mention that my F-150 is pretty close to paid off =
and I=E2=80=99d be taking on another boatload of debt to move up to the =
F-250. Which is all to say that the towing performance improvement =
would need to be considerable before I would make the move.=20
> =20
> What say you, towing brain trust? Is it worth the move?
> =20
> Scott (B.)
> _______________________________________________
>=20
> http://www.fot-racing.com <http://www.fot-racing.com/>
>=20
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html =
<http://www.team.net/donate.html>
> Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive <http://autox.team.net/archive> =
http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot <http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot>
> Unsubscribe/Manage: =
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com =
<http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com>
--Apple-Mail=_6B3432E5-12CB-437E-9AE0-CD8BA587A10C
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
charset=utf-8
<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I=E2=80=
=99d say =E2=80=9Cwho buys F250=E2=80=9Ds?? The cost difference for an =
F350 is trivial, especially if you buy one off the lot instead of =
ordering. I tow my Airstream toy hauler with mine, it=E2=80=99s the =
second F350 I=E2=80=99ve owned. My first one developed a serious oil =
leak that would have required removing the cab ?!!? to fix. I gather =
that removing the cab is=E2=80=99t the worst job in to world, but all =
this happened when I needed my truck in a week, so I traded it in and =
got a 2018 F350. The new one came right off the lot (I was in a hurry) =
and didn=E2=80=99t have all the fancy shit my previous one had. But =
it=E2=80=99s a MUCH better truck, though I can=E2=80=99t park it for =
shit. It=E2=80=99s a twin cab with an eight foot bed. So long, as in =
REALLY long. I think it=E2=80=99s 22=E2=80=99. Hook it up to Fritz, my =
34=E2=80=99 Airstream Peyote Hauler, and it=E2=80=99s a solid city =
block. <div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">But the =
diesel engine is so quiet that people step right in front of me in =
parking lots=E2=80=94they don=E2=80=99t hear me coming. Weird for a =
Diesel. Without the trailer I get 19mpg on freeways. With the trailer I =
get 16 if there aren=E2=80=99t a lot of hills to climb. Keep your foot =
off the accelerator, or better yet, put it in cruise at 65=E2=80=94and =
you=E2=80=99re gold. </div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">My next truck will be a maxed out cybertruck. </div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On =
Sep 23, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Mike Jackson via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; font-size: 16px; font-family: arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I =
realize everyone has their own preferred answer. That said:<div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D"">I've had our 2000 Ford F350 diesel =
since it was new. Heck, we've killed two trailers in that =
time. It'll hit 400K miles before the end of 2020 as long as we =
dont have any more races cancelled. It has a swaybar hitch that =
helps but an 18 wheeler passing can still cause it to get a upset and =
require a bit of opposite lock to keep it between the whites.</div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D"">It's been quite reliable with the =
exception of AC systems and alternators. I now travel with a spare =
alt behind the rear seat of our crew cab model.</div><div style=3D"margin:=
0px;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" =
class=3D"">Previous tow vehicle was a Suburban. An uphill =
departure from a fuel or lunch stop made a lot of noise but very little =
movement for a few seconds. The F350 diesel is like a mule, say =
"go" and it does.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D"">And yes, it's my =
around town daily driver.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D"">I recall asking =
my sales guy when we ordered it from the factory if I should consider a =
dually. His reply was that I should only buy such a thing if I =
liked buying rear fenders or was going to tow a 5th wheel trailer. =
Shortly after that I started noticing lots of duallies with broken glass =
rear fenders from trying to turn in places just not quite wide =
enough.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D"">Just my =
experience.</div><div style=3D"margin: 0px;" class=3D"">Mike <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote style=3D"padding-left: 5px; =
margin-left: 0px; border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; =
border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 255); font-weight: normal; font-style: =
normal; text-decoration: none; font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, =
sans-serif;" class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">From: "Barr, =
Scott via Fot"<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><fot@autox.team.net =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Sent: Sep 23, 2020 1:31 PM<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D"">To: Amici =
Triumphi<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><fot@autox.team.net =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">Subject: [Fot] Tow Vehicle Musings<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"margin: 0px; page: =
WordSection1;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: "Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=3D"">Hi =
all,<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
"Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve been =
towing a 24-foot toy-hauler style trailer for a few years now. =
It=E2=80=99s 14 feet of =E2=80=9Cgarage=E2=80=9D space in the back and =
10 feet of RV in the front (toilet, shower, fridge, kitchen area). =
All in, full of water, car loaded, it weighs about 9,500 lbs. I =
load the trailer so I have about 1,750 pounds of tongue weight, which is =
technically a little over the payload limit of the truck, but not too =
bad.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
"Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=3D"">I=E2=80=99ve been =
towing with a 2017 F-150, with a max tow package putting towing capacity =
at about 12,000 lbs. V6 twin turbo EcoBoost with 375hp and 470 ft lb =
torque. I use a good weight-distributing hitch and a sway control =
strut. And I added Air Lift air suspension to help with the extra =
load. Generally speaking, the F-150 has been doing just =
fine. But when it=E2=80=99s windy the trailer gets a little =
tail-happy, wagging enough sometimes to set off the truck=E2=80=99s =
automatic trailer sway alarm (it=E2=80=99s a big baby=E2=80=A6).<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
"Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=3D"">So I=E2=80=99ve been =
trying to determine whether moving up to an F-250 super duty would make =
an appreciable difference in the towing performance. An F-250 is =
1000-1500 pounds heavier than my F-150, depending on specs of both =
trucks. Is that enough to make a noticeable difference? Are =
there other factors that would make it that much better than an =
F-150?<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
"Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=3D"">The F-150 with the =
twin turbo V6 and 10-speed trans makes for a nice street car, with =
reasonable mileage (about 19 average) =E2=80=93 and it=E2=80=99s what I =
drive all winter. The F-250 Super Duty will get considerably =
crappier mileage and will be a less friendly daily driver (I =
assume). Not to mention that my F-150 is pretty close to paid off =
and I=E2=80=99d be taking on another boatload of debt to move up to the =
F-250. Which is all to say that the towing performance improvement =
would need to be considerable before I would make the move. <o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
"Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=3D"">What say you, towing =
brain trust? Is it worth the move?<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Century Gothic", =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: =
"Century Gothic", sans-serif;" class=3D"">Scott (B.)<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></fot@autox.team.net></fot@autox.team.=
net></blockquote></div></div><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">_______________________________________________</span><br =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none;" class=3D""><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><a href=3D"http://www.fot-racing.com/"; =
style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">http://www.fot-racing.com</a><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, =
0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; =
white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Donate:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/donate.html"; style=3D"font-family: =
TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">http://www.team.net/donate.html</a><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class=3D"">Archive:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a =
href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive"; style=3D"font-family: =
TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">http://autox.team.net/archive</a><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; =
display: inline !important;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a =
href=3D"http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot"; style=3D"font-family: =
TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot</a><br style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; =
font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; =
font-size: 18px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; =
word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: =
none; float: none; display: inline !important;" =
class=3D"">Unsubscribe/Manage:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><a =
href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com"; =
style=3D"font-family: TimesNewRomanPSMT; font-size: 18px; font-style: =
normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: =
normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: =
0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" =
class=3D"">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/fot/bill@ponostyle.com</a=
></div></blockquote></div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>=
--Apple-Mail=_6B3432E5-12CB-437E-9AE0-CD8BA587A10C--
--===============0037023743153353287==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com
Archive: http://autox.team.net/archive http://www.team.net/pipermail/fot
--===============0037023743153353287==--
|