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RE: defective header/manifold and exhaust

To: "6pack" <6pack@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: defective header/manifold and exhaust
From: Peter Macholdt <vze2846b@verizon.net>
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 12:04:47 -0000
Tommie,

I'm interested in knowing where to find the better tubular systems.

Thanks,
Peter Macholdt
'68 TR250

>I had similar problems. Both pieces of exhaust header were out of alignment.
>The front exhaust (cyl 1-2-3)section fit flush to the head but the single
>tube (cyl 1) was off by 1/4 inch. I got a muffler shop to bend it to fit.
>The rear exhaust (cyl 4-5-6) section was twisted and could not be fitted.
>There was almost 1 inch of twist. It took a combination of a muffler shop
>bending the tubes, a welding shop heating and bending the tubes, and a
>machine shop to shave the faces flush to get this thing to fit without
>leaks.
>
>I would not recommend this exhaust tubular system to anyone. Better ones are
>available from other sources.
>
>I will admit that the rest of the sport exhaust system fit very well with no
>problems on installation. Sounds good too!
>
>Tommie Cook
>72 GT6 conv.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Peter Macholdt [mailto:vze2846b@verizon.net]
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:33 PM
>To: 6pack
>Cc: sales@rimmerbros.co.uk
>Subject: Re: defective header/manifold and exhaust
>
>
>Mitch,
>
>This email is VERY depressing.  I had intended to order this set-up for 
>my TR250 during the current free shipping sale.  Now, I don't know.  For 
>$500 I want a system that bolts up with no modifications to my head or 
>the manifold.
>
>Anyone else had a bad experience with this system or with Rimmer?  I 
>heard Rimmer was OK.  Did I hear wrong?
>
>
>
>>I know Rimmer Brothers could car less but that manifold still isn't on the
>>car. A welder moved the right flange over, the left was fine. Problem is
>the
>>3rd pipe from the front hits the the stud. I got another guy to come over
>>with a torch and we've been heating the pipe and trying to beat it in just
>>enough to get it to go past the pipe and also get a nut on it. The pipe is
>>going to end up being beaten in a good half inch plus the finish is burnt
>>off and the metal is fatigued.  What a ridiculous design.  I thought i was
>>buying a very good header and exhaust for $500.. It's a piece of junk in my
>>opinion. And anyone that happens to look at it.
>>I also bought your fitting kit (installation kit). If you look in the
>>catalog it shows a bag loaded with parts to install the complete system.
>>What i received is 2 U Bolts to mount a whole system. What a joke.
>>I ordered my head gasket from you also, when i ordered it i gave my year
>73,
>>head# 218227 and engine#  and of course was sent the wrong gasket.
>>Your company has basically shit on me over and over. I thought i'd take the
>>time to let you know what i think and while i'm at it i'll let the others
>on
>>this mailing list know also. Mitch Vamos
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: mitch <tristatelining@isoc.net>
>>To: sales <sales@rimmerbros.co.uk>
>>Cc: <tristatelining@isoc.net>
>>Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:51 PM
>>Subject: defective manifold
>>
>>
>>> Rimmer Brothers,
>>> I've been talking to Bob and Mike about your defective R1400s sports
>>manifold i have
>>> here. He was supposed to call me back 2 days ago but of course he didn't.
>>So
>>> now i'm stuck with a manifold/header that won't even go over the studs.
>If
>>i
>>> were to ream the flange out on that side the ports wouldn't match on that
>>> one side only. Talk about restriction of the flow! Somehow someone
>decided
>>> there i ordered the wrong part! LOL! Not all your customers are idiots! I
>>> know what i have, a later head not the early style. The head and
>>> intake/exhaust gaskets i ordered from you fit perfectly that should tell
>>you
>>> i have the later head. I sent 2 emails to this address with a digital
>>photo
>>> of the manifold and the problem but i'm told you never receive them?
>Thats
>>> not possible as undeliverable emails are returned to the sender. There
>are
>>2
>>> flanges, the front one lines up correctly. the rear one the studs don't
>>and
>>> the ports don't. When it was assembled it was welded about a 1/4" off.
>The
>>> ports are partially covered by the flange. The only way to fix it is to
>>have
>>> the flange cut off and rewelded back in the right spot by a welder
>>> experienced with Stainless Steel. Some fitting is required but this is
>>> ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is you've now put me off for a whole
>week
>>> and totally blown me off.
>>> Mitch Vamos- 0001014406
>
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>Peter Macholdt                    
>(609) 466-6458                    
>117 West Prospect Street
>Hopewell, New Jersey 08525


________________________________________________________________________
Peter Macholdt                    
(609) 466-6458                    
117 West Prospect Street
Hopewell, New Jersey 08525

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