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Re: defective header/manifold and exhaust

To: Tommie.Cook@USONCOLOGY.COM
Subject: Re: defective header/manifold and exhaust
From: jay_welch@juno.com
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 10:41:34 -0400
Hi,

I think I've read enough about Rimmer to persuade me to stay with major
suppliers in the states.  Between the apparent incompetence of sales or
stocking people and the hassle/cost of shipping I think the desicion will
be easy for me.  Nice catalog though.....

Jay Welch, Abington MA
1971 TR6 project, 1973 TR6 driver
Member "Cape Cod British Car Club" @ 
http://clubs.hemmings.com/capecodbritish/


On Fri, 17 Aug 2001 08:53:43 -0500 "Cook, Tommie L."
<Tommie.Cook@USONCOLOGY.COM> writes:
> I had similar problems. Both pieces of exhaust header were out of 
> alignment.
> The front exhaust (cyl 1-2-3)section fit flush to the head but the 
> single
> tube (cyl 1) was off by 1/4 inch. I got a muffler shop to bend it to 
> fit.
> The rear exhaust (cyl 4-5-6) section was twisted and could not be 
> fitted.
> There was almost 1 inch of twist. It took a combination of a muffler 
> shop
> bending the tubes, a welding shop heating and bending the tubes, and 
> a
> machine shop to shave the faces flush to get this thing to fit 
> without
> leaks.
> 
> I would not recommend this exhaust tubular system to anyone. Better 
> ones are
> available from other sources.
> 
> I will admit that the rest of the sport exhaust system fit very well 
> with no
> problems on installation. Sounds good too!
> 
> Tommie Cook
> 72 GT6 conv.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Peter Macholdt [mailto:vze2846b@verizon.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:33 PM
> To: 6pack
> Cc: sales@rimmerbros.co.uk
> Subject: Re: defective header/manifold and exhaust
> 
> 
> Mitch,
> 
> This email is VERY depressing.  I had intended to order this set-up 
> for 
> my TR250 during the current free shipping sale.  Now, I don't know.  
> For 
> $500 I want a system that bolts up with no modifications to my head 
> or 
> the manifold.
> 
> Anyone else had a bad experience with this system or with Rimmer?  I 
> 
> heard Rimmer was OK.  Did I hear wrong?
> 
> 
> 
> >I know Rimmer Brothers could car less but that manifold still isn't 
> on the
> >car. A welder moved the right flange over, the left was fine. 
> Problem is
> the
> >3rd pipe from the front hits the the stud. I got another guy to 
> come over
> >with a torch and we've been heating the pipe and trying to beat it 
> in just
> >enough to get it to go past the pipe and also get a nut on it. The 
> pipe is
> >going to end up being beaten in a good half inch plus the finish is 
> burnt
> >off and the metal is fatigued.  What a ridiculous design.  I 
> thought i was
> >buying a very good header and exhaust for $500.. It's a piece of 
> junk in my
> >opinion. And anyone that happens to look at it.
> >I also bought your fitting kit (installation kit). If you look in 
> the
> >catalog it shows a bag loaded with parts to install the complete 
> system.
> >What i received is 2 U Bolts to mount a whole system. What a joke.
> >I ordered my head gasket from you also, when i ordered it i gave my 
> year
> 73,
> >head# 218227 and engine#  and of course was sent the wrong gasket.
> >Your company has basically shit on me over and over. I thought i'd 
> take the
> >time to let you know what i think and while i'm at it i'll let the 
> others
> on
> >this mailing list know also. Mitch Vamos
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: mitch <tristatelining@isoc.net>
> >To: sales <sales@rimmerbros.co.uk>
> >Cc: <tristatelining@isoc.net>
> >Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 1:51 PM
> >Subject: defective manifold
> >
> >
> >> Rimmer Brothers,
> >> I've been talking to Bob and Mike about your defective R1400s 
> sports
> >manifold i have
> >> here. He was supposed to call me back 2 days ago but of course he 
> didn't.
> >So
> >> now i'm stuck with a manifold/header that won't even go over the 
> studs.
> If
> >i
> >> were to ream the flange out on that side the ports wouldn't match 
> on that
> >> one side only. Talk about restriction of the flow! Somehow 
> someone
> decided
> >> there i ordered the wrong part! LOL! Not all your customers are 
> idiots! I
> >> know what i have, a later head not the early style. The head and
> >> intake/exhaust gaskets i ordered from you fit perfectly that 
> should tell
> >you
> >> i have the later head. I sent 2 emails to this address with a 
> digital
> >photo
> >> of the manifold and the problem but i'm told you never receive 
> them?
> Thats
> >> not possible as undeliverable emails are returned to the sender. 
> There
> are
> >2
> >> flanges, the front one lines up correctly. the rear one the studs 
> don't
> >and
> >> the ports don't. When it was assembled it was welded about a 1/4" 
> off.
> The
> >> ports are partially covered by the flange. The only way to fix it 
> is to
> >have
> >> the flange cut off and rewelded back in the right spot by a 
> welder
> >> experienced with Stainless Steel. Some fitting is required but 
> this is
> >> ridiculous. Even more ridiculous is you've now put me off for a 
> whole
> week
> >> and totally blown me off.
> >> Mitch Vamos- 0001014406
> 
> 
>
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> Peter Macholdt                    
> (609) 466-6458                    
> 117 West Prospect Street
> Hopewell, New Jersey 08525

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