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Re: [Spridgets] Need help with my 67 Sprite clutch

To: Phil Sarikas <psarikas@msn.com> ONCSfQrXzco0LIwvPNiMM17QkTV73zfLVBxFKSOYL5d8hjhY88VRfGFXBH2OFN2ZBRcC9tpVV9L/qRKFH8UDErX2I9Ld6iip/HACNKCP86MePwXel210ChWT
Subject: Re: [Spridgets] Need help with my 67 Sprite clutch
From: Rick Fisk via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2021 22:19:15 -0400
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Sounds like you're doing everything right.  The picture shows the correct 
bearing for a 1275 and the bearing surface on the pressure plate looks OK too.  
 So maybe you just got a bad one throw out bearing.  ??

Rick

> On Jul 11, 2021, at 8:48 PM, Phil Sarikas <psarikas@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> As fas as the clutch, I press it as little as possible. I am to lazy to 
> leave my foot on it at a red light and I am off of it as quickly as I can be. 
> I was warned to not rest my hand on the shift lever as well so have never 
> picked up that habit. 
> 
> Thanks, Phil
> 
>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 5:45 PM, Phil Sarikas <psarikas@msn.com> wrote:
>> Thanks. I must not have put the paper clip on correctly. This time should 
>> work![cid:9B1B96E1-0F23-4595-8637-F657543E560B-L0-001][cid:6D71CD1B-A4C6-490A-9F37-327AE89F9AE6-L0-001][cid:50146577-C036-4D7E-8D20-30305E841A5A-L0-001]
>> Thanks, Phil
>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Forgot the pictures Phil.  :-)
>> Do you keep your foot on the clutch at red lights?  I don't know your 
>> driving technique, but riding the clutch can cause premature bearing 
>> failure.  The only time I push the clutch pedal down is to shift gears.  If 
>> the pressure plate is bad it can cause failure.  we need to see the pictures.
>> Rick
>> On Jul 11, 2021, at 6:09 PM, Phil Sarikas <psarikas@msn.com> wrote:
>>  So, the engine is out and �. The clutch plate was in correctly. Purely 
>> by luck but sometime that is ok.   The question Rick asked is still open. I 
>> can say that it is the same as the TO I replaced but will visit British Auto 
>> Works tomorrow and confirm that I have the right one.  I have attached a few 
>> pictures, the first is a side view of a very trashed TO bearing and the one 
>> I pulled. Same profile. Next is a few of the TO that was in there and it is 
>> clearly failing.   Why? Last is a picture of the back of the pressure plate 
>> where the TO connects. It feels smooth but as I no longer trust it, it will 
>> be replaced and a new TO placed back in. Any thoughts on what would make a 
>> new TO die in less than 100 miles of driving?
>> Thanks again for all the help, questions and advice!
>> On t maJul 5, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Rick Fisk <refisk@chartermi.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Phil,
>> Are you sure you replaced the throwout bearing with the correct unit?  There 
>> are three different throwout bearings available for the A-series engine.  
>> Photo below from Gerard's Garage website shows the difference.
>> Rick
>> <image0.jpeg>
>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 3:19 PM, Phil Sarikas via Spridgets 
>> <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I need the help of this group to get my clutch working as well as can be.  
>> The car is any early 67 sprite with a 1275 and the standard ribcage 
>> transmission.  At this point, everything in the hydraulic system has been 
>> replaced over the 20 years I have owned the car.
>> Over the winter/spring, I had the engine out and did some work to reduce the 
>> overall oil leaks and did replace the needle bearings in the transmission, 
>> and a new throwout bearing but nothing that opened up the clutch hydraulic 
>> system.
>> Put it all back together and went for a drive and the clutch was clearly not 
>> working correctly, I could get it to shift but it often required me to pump 
>> the clutch several times to get it to shift correctly and could only get it 
>> into reverse if I went to the path of turning off the motor and restarting 
>> it in reverse.  Not a place I can stay.  I bled it as completely as I could 
>> with my EZ-Bleed and tried it again.  I wish I could say it was better, but 
>> no real change.
>> I have pulled the slave cylinder, no signs of leaks, and no real signs of 
>> pitting in the cylinder, and I was going to rebuild it as well as the master 
>> but turns that my box of parts has 2 seal kits for the master cylinder, and 
>> none for the slave cylinder.  As I wait for the local shop to open on 
>> Tuesday, I looked around on this site and others, and it seems that some 
>> have successfully applied the smaller cylinder from a 1098 on the 1275, same 
>> transmission, bolts up but needs a shorter pin, but how does the hydraulic 
>> part work?  There is no equivalent rubber pipe on the earlier cars?  I like 
>> the rubber connection so I would need some work of an adapter to cover from 
>> what appears to be a 7/16 fine thread (20?) on the pipe (adaptor would need 
>> to be female) To a 3/8 fine (24?) On the 1098 slave cylinder (adaptor would 
>> need to be male).  Is there such an adapter off the shelf?
>> Is there a downside to the smaller diameter slave cylinder other than 
>> perhaps a bit more force to move the pedal?  I did check with a camera, I am 
>> getting movement as soon as the clutch pedal is depressed, just not enough 
>> movement to fully disengage the engine from the transmission.
>> Open to any and all input!
>> Thanks, Phil
>> Thanks, Phil
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