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To: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
From: Al Fuller <alfuller194@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 15:07:59 +0900
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Amazon and Uline sell tire racks, e.g. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3DTire+ra=
ck


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Best Regards,
Al Fuller

On Tue, Mar 4, 2025, 2:11=E2=80=AFAM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.=
com>
wrote:

> Miq,
>
> I was thinking something like your original setup, but I had weight
> concerns, too. I'm confident I could build the 'shelf' strong enough, but
> getting them up and down would be a pain in the butt. I don't want to be =
at
> an orthopedist in two years explaining how I hurt my back hoisting wheels
> over my head. They don't rotate that often, but I'd like them off the
> floor. The Griots ones were nice because you could mount them at whatever
> height you wanted.
>
> I guess I could find someone to weld me up some replacements, but that
> seems like it would be easier for me to just buy a new welder and make th=
em
> myself, and a new garage oven and powder coating gear.
>
> Scott
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM MIQ MILLMAN <miq@bigllama.com> wr=
ote:
>
>> I used to have a large set of home made L brackets, approximately 2 feet
>> tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the studs.  These were across the
>> nearly top of a wall, spaced every other stud (32" apart) and then had a=
n
>> aluminum angle bar 3"x3" laid across the lot of them:
>>
>> Side view
>> W|
>> A|
>> L|\
>> L|_\______^_
>>
>> Tire/wheel combos would be strapped in pairs, and then held up with the
>> tires resting against the wall on one side, and the angle bar on the oth=
er.
>> like this:
>>
>> |O,
>>
>> This worked great for the light weight race car/sports car sets--which
>> weighed less than 45 lbs per wheel/tire.  It wasn't easy to get the heav=
ier
>> sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able i=
n
>> singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).
>>
>> However, when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my
>> G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift up over m=
y
>> head easily, and for the lag-bolts to support.
>>
>> In my next shop, I'm going to have a set of big-box warehouse style
>> shelves (3 feet deep, 8 feet long,  set up perpendicular from one wall (=
so
>> I can get access to both sides, kind of like a data center rack setup), =
and
>> then I can just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the center of the whe=
els
>> and have that pole across a pair of shelves against the wall.
>>
>> I guess the real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of
>> tires/wheels?  if it's just seasonally for winter something out of the w=
ay
>> is fine, but if you're vintage racing or (god forbid) drifting and go
>> through multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a giant
>> tower of hanoi in one area is probably easiest.
>>
>> If you really are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a
>> tire/wheel room where you can even mount and balance them yourself.  The=
n
>> you can store the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels
>> horizontally on shelves and good tires on the brackets I describe.
>>
>>   --Miq
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@g=
mail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
>>>
>>> I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
>>> wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on the=
m.
>>>
>>> I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm
>>> starting from scratch on wheel storage.
>>>
>>> I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right
>>> now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Rig=
ht
>>> now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't lik=
e
>>> that.
>>>
>>> WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
>>> pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off=
 the
>>> lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
>>>
>>> Scott
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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Amazon and Uline sell tire racks, e.g.=C2=A0<a href=
=3D"https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3DTire+rack";>https://www.amazon.com/s?k=3DTi=
re+rack</a></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div data-smart=
mail=3D"gmail_signature">________________<br>Sent from my phone <br>Best Re=
gards,<br>Al Fuller</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_co=
ntainer"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Mar 4, 2025, 2:11=E2=
=80=AFAM Scott Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal@gmail.com";>sc=
ott.hall.personal@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Miq,<div><br></div><div>I was thinking something l=
ike your original setup, but I had weight concerns, too. I&#39;m confident =
I could build the &#39;shelf&#39; strong enough, but getting them up and do=
wn would be a pain in the butt. I don&#39;t want to be at an orthopedist in=
 two years explaining how I hurt my back hoisting wheels over my head. They=
 don&#39;t rotate that often, but I&#39;d like them off the floor. The Grio=
ts ones were nice because you could mount them at whatever height you wante=
d.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess I could find someone to weld me up some=
 replacements, but that seems like it would be easier for me to just buy a =
new welder and make them myself, and a new garage oven and powder coating g=
ear.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Scott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_=
quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:39=
=E2=80=AFAM MIQ MILLMAN &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:miq@bigllama.com"; target=3D"_=
blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">miq@bigllama.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockqu=
ote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px=
 solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I used to have a=
 large set of home made L brackets, approximately 2 feet tall and long, tha=
t I lag-bolted to the studs.=C2=A0 These were across the nearly top of a wa=
ll, spaced every other stud (32&quot; apart) and then had an aluminum angle=
 bar 3&quot;x3&quot; laid across the lot of them:<div><br></div><div>Side v=
iew</div><div>W|</div><div>A|</div><div>L|\</div><div>L|_\______^_</div><di=
v><br></div><div>Tire/wheel combos would be strapped in pairs, and then hel=
d up with the tires resting against=C2=A0the wall on one side, and the angl=
e bar on the other.</div><div>like this:</div><div><br></div><div>|O,</div>=
<div><br></div><div>This worked great for the light weight race car/sports =
car sets--which weighed less than 45 lbs per wheel/tire.=C2=A0 It wasn&#39;=
t easy to get the heavier sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1=
/2 feet), but do-able in singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).</div><di=
v><br></div><div>However, when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wh=
eels from my G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift=
 up over my head easily, and for the lag-bolts to support.</div><div><br></=
div><div>In my next shop, I&#39;m going to have a set of big-box warehouse=
=C2=A0style shelves (3 feet deep, 8 feet long,=C2=A0 set up perpendicular f=
rom one wall (so I can get access to both sides, kind of like a data center=
 rack setup), and then I can just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the ce=
nter of the wheels and have that pole across a pair of shelves against the =
wall.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess the real question is how often do yo=
u need to swap out sets of tires/wheels?=C2=A0 if it&#39;s just seasonally =
for winter something out of the way is fine, but if you&#39;re vintage raci=
ng or (god forbid) drifting and go through multiple sets of tires a month, =
just stacking them like a giant tower of hanoi in one area is probably easi=
est.</div><div><br></div><div>If you really are going through 8 sets regula=
rly, maybe set up a tire/wheel room where you can even mount and balance=C2=
=A0them yourself.=C2=A0 Then you can store the tires separately from the wh=
eels, putting wheels horizontally on shelves and good tires on the brackets=
 I describe.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=A0 --Miq</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 2, 2025=
 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM Scott Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal@gm=
ail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">scott.hall.personal@gmail.com=
</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:=
0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">=
<div dir=3D"ltr">I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here&#39;=
s another one:<div><br></div><div>I used to have Griots Garage wheel storag=
e &#39;poles&#39;--they bolt to the wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly=
 and you hang your wheels on them.</div><div><br></div><div>I don&#39;t see=
 them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I&#39;m starting from s=
cratch on wheel storage.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve got eight-=
-no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right now. Opinions on th=
e best way to store them, and why you like them? Right now they&#39;re stac=
ked against the wall and on the shelves and I don&#39;t like that.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it&#39=
;s rated for 1400 pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don&#39;t spin, =
it just twists off the lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel&#39;s =
coming off.</div><div><br></div><div>Scott</div></div>
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