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Miq,
I was thinking something like your original setup, but I had weight
concerns, too. I'm confident I could build the 'shelf' strong enough, but
getting them up and down would be a pain in the butt. I don't want to be at
an orthopedist in two years explaining how I hurt my back hoisting wheels
over my head. They don't rotate that often, but I'd like them off the
floor. The Griots ones were nice because you could mount them at whatever
height you wanted.
I guess I could find someone to weld me up some replacements, but that
seems like it would be easier for me to just buy a new welder and make them
myself, and a new garage oven and powder coating gear.
Scott
On Mon, Mar 3, 2025 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM MIQ MILLMAN <miq@bigllama.com> wrot=
e:
> I used to have a large set of home made L brackets, approximately 2 feet
> tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the studs. These were across the
> nearly top of a wall, spaced every other stud (32" apart) and then had an
> aluminum angle bar 3"x3" laid across the lot of them:
>
> Side view
> W|
> A|
> L|\
> L|_\______^_
>
> Tire/wheel combos would be strapped in pairs, and then held up with the
> tires resting against the wall on one side, and the angle bar on the othe=
r.
> like this:
>
> |O,
>
> This worked great for the light weight race car/sports car sets--which
> weighed less than 45 lbs per wheel/tire. It wasn't easy to get the heavi=
er
> sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able in
> singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).
>
> However, when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my
> G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift up over my
> head easily, and for the lag-bolts to support.
>
> In my next shop, I'm going to have a set of big-box warehouse style
> shelves (3 feet deep, 8 feet long, set up perpendicular from one wall (s=
o
> I can get access to both sides, kind of like a data center rack setup), a=
nd
> then I can just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the center of the whee=
ls
> and have that pole across a pair of shelves against the wall.
>
> I guess the real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of
> tires/wheels? if it's just seasonally for winter something out of the wa=
y
> is fine, but if you're vintage racing or (god forbid) drifting and go
> through multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a giant
> tower of hanoi in one area is probably easiest.
>
> If you really are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a
> tire/wheel room where you can even mount and balance them yourself. Then
> you can store the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels
> horizontally on shelves and good tires on the brackets I describe.
>
> --Miq
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gm=
ail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
>>
>> I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
>> wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them=
.
>>
>> I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm
>> starting from scratch on wheel storage.
>>
>> I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right
>> now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Righ=
t
>> now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like
>> that.
>>
>> WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
>> pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off =
the
>> lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
>>
>> Scott
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Miq,<div><br></div><div>I was thinking something like your=
original setup, but I had weight concerns, too. I'm confident I could =
build the 'shelf' strong enough, but getting them up and down would=
be a pain in the butt. I don't want to be at an orthopedist in two yea=
rs explaining how I hurt my back hoisting wheels over my head. They don'=
;t rotate that often, but I'd like them off the floor. The Griots ones =
were nice because you could mount them at whatever height you wanted.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>I guess I could find someone to weld me up some replace=
ments, but that seems like it would be easier for me to just buy a new weld=
er and make them myself, and a new garage oven and powder coating gear.<br>=
</div><div><br></div><div>Scott</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gm=
ail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Mar 3, 2=
025 at 10:39=E2=80=AFAM MIQ MILLMAN <<a href=3D"mailto:miq@bigllama.com"=
>miq@bigllama.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I used to have a large set of home made L=
brackets, approximately 2 feet tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the stu=
ds.=C2=A0 These were across the nearly top of a wall, spaced every other st=
ud (32" apart) and then had an aluminum angle bar 3"x3" laid=
across the lot of them:<div><br></div><div>Side view</div><div>W|</div><di=
v>A|</div><div>L|\</div><div>L|_\______^_</div><div><br></div><div>Tire/whe=
el combos would be strapped in pairs, and then held up with the tires resti=
ng against=C2=A0the wall on one side, and the angle bar on the other.</div>=
<div>like this:</div><div><br></div><div>|O,</div><div><br></div><div>This =
worked great for the light weight race car/sports car sets--which weighed l=
ess than 45 lbs per wheel/tire.=C2=A0 It wasn't easy to get the heavier=
sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able in =
singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).</div><div><br></div><div>However,=
when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my G-wagon that=
weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift up over my head easily, =
and for the lag-bolts to support.</div><div><br></div><div>In my next shop,=
I'm going to have a set of big-box warehouse=C2=A0style shelves (3 fee=
t deep, 8 feet long,=C2=A0 set up perpendicular from one wall (so I can get=
access to both sides, kind of like a data center rack setup), and then I c=
an just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the center of the wheels and hav=
e that pole across a pair of shelves against the wall.</div><div><br></div>=
<div>I guess the real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of=
tires/wheels?=C2=A0 if it's just seasonally for winter something out o=
f the way is fine, but if you're vintage racing or (god forbid) driftin=
g and go through multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a =
giant tower of hanoi in one area is probably easiest.</div><div><br></div><=
div>If you really are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a tire/w=
heel room where you can even mount and balance=C2=A0them yourself.=C2=A0 Th=
en you can store the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels horiz=
ontally on shelves and good tires on the brackets I describe.</div><div><br=
></div><div>=C2=A0 --Miq</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM Scott =
Hall <<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
>scott.hall.personal@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I forgot how much I enjoyed =
reading the list. So here's another one:<div><br></div><div>I used to h=
ave Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the wall/stud=
and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It look=
s like I'm starting from scratch on wheel storage.=C2=A0</div><div><br>=
</div><div>I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the ga=
rage right now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like th=
em? Right now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I=
don't like that.</div><div><br></div><div>WRT the impact: ordered the =
Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400 pounds, I think. I guess if=
the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off the lug stud itself. I gue=
ss either way the wheel's coming off.</div><div><br></div><div>Scott</d=
iv></div>
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