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To: Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Tire storage
From: MIQ MILLMAN <miq@bigllama.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2025 08:39:26 -0800
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I used to have a large set of home made L brackets, approximately 2 feet
tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the studs.  These were across the
nearly top of a wall, spaced every other stud (32" apart) and then had an
aluminum angle bar 3"x3" laid across the lot of them:

Side view
W|
A|
L|\
L|_\______^_

Tire/wheel combos would be strapped in pairs, and then held up with the
tires resting against the wall on one side, and the angle bar on the other.
like this:

|O,

This worked great for the light weight race car/sports car sets--which
weighed less than 45 lbs per wheel/tire.  It wasn't easy to get the heavier
sets down by myself (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able in
singles (I used cheap HF ratchet straps).

However, when I tried to put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my
G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs each, it was too much (both to lift up over my
head easily, and for the lag-bolts to support.

In my next shop, I'm going to have a set of big-box warehouse style shelves
(3 feet deep, 8 feet long,  set up perpendicular from one wall (so I can
get access to both sides, kind of like a data center rack setup), and then
I can just use a lightweight aluminum pole in the center of the wheels and
have that pole across a pair of shelves against the wall.

I guess the real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of
tires/wheels?  if it's just seasonally for winter something out of the way
is fine, but if you're vintage racing or (god forbid) drifting and go
through multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a giant
tower of hanoi in one area is probably easiest.

If you really are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a tire/wheel
room where you can even mount and balance them yourself.  Then you can
store the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels horizontally on
shelves and good tires on the brackets I describe.

  --Miq

On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM Scott Hall <scott.hall.personal@gmai=
l.com>
wrote:

> I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the list. So here's another one:
>
> I used to have Griots Garage wheel storage 'poles'--they bolt to the
> wall/stud and stick out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.
>
> I don't see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I'm
> starting from scratch on wheel storage.
>
> I've got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right
> now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right
> now they're stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don't like
> that.
>
> WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-900. It says it's rated for 1400
> pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nuts don't spin, it just twists off t=
he
> lug stud itself. I guess either way the wheel's coming off.
>
> Scott
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I used to have a large set of home made L brackets, approx=
imately 2 feet tall and long, that I lag-bolted to the studs.=C2=A0 These w=
ere across the nearly top of a wall, spaced every other stud (32&quot; apar=
t) and then had an aluminum angle bar 3&quot;x3&quot; laid across the lot o=
f them:<div><br></div><div>Side view</div><div>W|</div><div>A|</div><div>L|=
\</div><div>L|_\______^_</div><div><br></div><div>Tire/wheel combos would b=
e strapped in pairs, and then held up with the tires resting against=C2=A0t=
he wall on one side, and the angle bar on the other.</div><div>like this:</=
div><div><br></div><div>|O,</div><div><br></div><div>This worked great for =
the light weight race car/sports car sets--which weighed less than 45 lbs p=
er wheel/tire.=C2=A0 It wasn&#39;t easy to get the heavier sets down by mys=
elf (the rack base was set at 6 1/2 feet), but do-able in singles (I used c=
heap HF ratchet straps).</div><div><br></div><div>However, when I tried to =
put up a set of off-road tires/wheels from my G-wagon that weigh 112 lbs ea=
ch, it was too much (both to lift up over my head easily, and for the lag-b=
olts to support.</div><div><br></div><div>In my next shop, I&#39;m going to=
 have a set of big-box warehouse=C2=A0style shelves (3 feet deep, 8 feet lo=
ng,=C2=A0 set up perpendicular from one wall (so I can get access to both s=
ides, kind of like a data center rack setup), and then I can just use a lig=
htweight aluminum pole in the center of the wheels and have that pole acros=
s a pair of shelves against the wall.</div><div><br></div><div>I guess the =
real question is how often do you need to swap out sets of tires/wheels?=C2=
=A0 if it&#39;s just seasonally for winter something out of the way is fine=
, but if you&#39;re vintage racing or (god forbid) drifting and go through =
multiple sets of tires a month, just stacking them like a giant tower of ha=
noi in one area is probably easiest.</div><div><br></div><div>If you really=
 are going through 8 sets regularly, maybe set up a tire/wheel room where y=
ou can even mount and balance=C2=A0them yourself.=C2=A0 Then you can store =
the tires separately from the wheels, putting wheels horizontally on shelve=
s and good tires on the brackets I describe.</div><div><br></div><div>=C2=
=A0 --Miq</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 2, 2025 at 3:40=E2=80=AFPM=
 Scott Hall &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:scott.hall.personal@gmail.com";>scott.hall=
.personal@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I forgot how much I enjoyed reading the=
 list. So here&#39;s another one:<div><br></div><div>I used to have Griots =
Garage wheel storage &#39;poles&#39;--they bolt to the wall/stud and stick =
out perpendicularly and you hang your wheels on them.</div><div><br></div><=
div>I don&#39;t see them on the Griots website any more. It looks like I&#3=
9;m starting from scratch on wheel storage.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=
I&#39;ve got eight--no, nine--sets of wheels and tires in the garage right =
now. Opinions on the best way to store them, and why you like them? Right n=
ow they&#39;re stacked against the wall and on the shelves and I don&#39;t =
like that.</div><div><br></div><div>WRT the impact: ordered the Dewalt DCF-=
900. It says it&#39;s rated for 1400 pounds, I think. I guess if the lug nu=
ts don&#39;t spin, it just twists off the lug stud itself. I guess either w=
ay the wheel&#39;s coming off.</div><div><br></div><div>Scott</div></div>
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