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Re: [Shop-talk] Stranded by a bad car battery.

To: Dwade Reinsch <dreinsch@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Stranded by a bad car battery.
From: Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:10:50 -0500
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While not a direct answer to your question, I do want to share two =
observations about Hondas and batteries. First, while my five Hondas =
have all been mechanically bulletproof, I can=E2=80=99t say the same =
thing for their recent OEM batteries.  My 2017 Ridgeline went though 3 =
Honda batteries in its first three years.  Then, shortly after the =
warranty expired, the dealer told me the third was going bad and should =
be replaced - this time at my expense.  I replaced it with an Interstate =
battery that has now considerably outlasted the 3 Honda ones.  I don=E2=80=
=99t know who has been making Honda=E2=80=99s batteries, but the three I =
got between 2017 and 2020 all sucked.

Second, I think your 2016 Odyssey is the same platform as my 2017 =
Ridgeline (Gen 2 for Ridgelines) and uses a Start button rather than a =
key.  If so, I have noticed that the ACC =E2=80=98position=E2=80=99 =
(hitting the Start button twice without putting your foot on the brake) =
turns on a lot more than just the radio, including the HVAC system.  But =
one day I absent mindedly shut off the car with the transmission in =
neutral; the radio stayed on but everything else shut off.  I now do =
that if I want to listen to the radio in the car, leaving it in neutral =
and setting the parking brake.  It seems to work fine and presumably =
won=E2=80=99t tax the battery like the ACC position would.

Jim

> On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:03 PM, Dwade Reinsch <dreinsch@swbell.net> =
wrote:
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> This afternoon I was sitting in the 2016 Honda Odyssey van waiting for =
granddaughter to finish a theater activity and I went to sleep in the =
front seat.  Had the radio and inside lights on.  When she finished and =
came out, car would not start.  Completely dead.  Electric seat would =
not come back to driving position, etc.
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> Here's the question:  In the old days a weak battery would give notice =
by cranking slowly, etc., before failing.  This is the car I drive =
regularly and it gave NO warning.  Luckily, I could call son-in-law and =
he came to help.  Would not start with good set of booster cables.  =
Would not start with 15 minutes of charging on cables before attempting =
to start.  So in the morning I'll take pickup and tools and pull =
battery, get a replacement, and move the van home.
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> Does anyone have a suggestion for identifying a failing battery before =
being stranded?  (Battery is about 4 years old.)
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> Thanks,
> Dwade
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">While not a =
direct answer to your question, I do want to share two observations =
about Hondas and batteries. First, while my five Hondas have all been =
mechanically bulletproof, I can=E2=80=99t say the same thing for their =
recent OEM batteries. &nbsp;My 2017 Ridgeline went though 3 Honda =
batteries in its first three years. &nbsp;Then, shortly after the =
warranty expired, the dealer told me the third was going bad and should =
be replaced - this time at my expense. &nbsp;I replaced it with an =
Interstate battery that has now considerably outlasted the 3 Honda ones. =
&nbsp;I don=E2=80=99t know who has been making Honda=E2=80=99s =
batteries, but the three I got between 2017 and 2020 all =
sucked.<div><br></div><div>Second, I think your 2016 Odyssey is the same =
platform as my 2017 Ridgeline (Gen 2 for Ridgelines) and uses a Start =
button rather than a key. &nbsp;If so, I have noticed that the ACC =
=E2=80=98position=E2=80=99 (hitting the Start button twice without =
putting your foot on the brake) turns on a lot more than just the radio, =
including the HVAC system. &nbsp;But one day I absent mindedly shut off =
the car with the transmission in neutral; the radio stayed on but =
everything else shut off. &nbsp;I now do that if I want to listen to the =
radio in the car, leaving it in neutral and setting the parking brake. =
&nbsp;It seems to work fine and presumably won=E2=80=99t tax the battery =
like the ACC position =
would.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim<br><div><br><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div>On Jan 9, 2024, at 11:03 PM, Dwade Reinsch =
&lt;dreinsch@swbell.net&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div><div =
class=3D"ydpba5e1d2eyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica =
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">This afternoon I was =
sitting in the 2016 Honda Odyssey van waiting for granddaughter to =
finish a theater activity and I went to sleep in the front seat.&nbsp; =
Had the radio and inside lights on.&nbsp; When she finished and came =
out, car would not start.&nbsp; Completely dead.&nbsp; Electric seat =
would not come back to driving position, etc.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">Here's the question:&nbsp; In the old days a weak =
battery would give notice by cranking slowly, etc., before =
failing.&nbsp; This is the car I drive regularly and it gave NO =
warning.&nbsp; Luckily, I could call son-in-law and he came to =
help.&nbsp; Would not start with good set of booster cables.&nbsp; Would =
not start with 15 minutes of charging on cables before attempting to =
start.&nbsp; So in the morning I'll take pickup and tools and pull =
battery, get a replacement, and move the van home.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">Does anyone have a suggestion for identifying a =
failing battery before being stranded?&nbsp; (Battery is about 4 years =
old.)</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">Dwade</div></div></div>_____________________________=
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