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Re: [Shop-talk] Stranded by a bad car battery.

To: Dwade Reinsch <dreinsch@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Stranded by a bad car battery.
From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 04:47:15 -0800
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The newer cars are highly dependent upon sensor reads for the various
computers and can/will act differently than the older analogue cars with
dying batteries. It sounds like your battery may have shorted plates,
perhaps due to sulfation or other mechanical causes, for such an abrupt
failure to occur.

I am curious, though, as to why your car would not start when jumped from a
running vehicle. If you have a voltmeter on the dash it would be
interesting to see what it shows with the key on, and then when you had the
jump going. If you do not have a dash voltmeter, an OBDII reader may be
able to show it for you.

Good luck today with the battery replacement and you might wish to compare
the voltage reading pre and post battery swaps.

best,

doug

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 10:39=E2=80=AFPM Dwade Reinsch <dreinsch@swbell.net>=
 wrote:

> This afternoon I was sitting in the 2016 Honda Odyssey van waiting for
> granddaughter to finish a theater activity and I went to sleep in the fro=
nt
> seat.  Had the radio and inside lights on.  When she finished and came ou=
t,
> car would not start.  Completely dead.  Electric seat would not come back
> to driving position, etc.
>
> Here's the question:  In the old days a weak battery would give notice by
> cranking slowly, etc., before failing.  This is the car I drive regularly
> and it gave NO warning.  Luckily, I could call son-in-law and he came to
> help.  Would not start with good set of booster cables.  Would not start
> with 15 minutes of charging on cables before attempting to start.  So in
> the morning I'll take pickup and tools and pull battery, get a replacemen=
t,
> and move the van home.
>
> Does anyone have a suggestion for identifying a failing battery before
> being stranded?  (Battery is about 4 years old.)
>
> Thanks,
> Dwade
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">The=
 newer cars are highly dependent upon sensor reads for the various computer=
s and can/will act differently than the older analogue cars with dying batt=
eries. It sounds like your battery may have shorted plates, perhaps due to =
sulfation or other mechanical causes, for such an abrupt failure to occur.=
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">I am curious, thou=
gh, as to why your car would not start when jumped from a running vehicle. =
If you have a voltmeter on the dash it would be interesting to see what it =
shows with the key on, and then when you had the jump going. If you do not =
have a dash voltmeter, an OBDII reader may be able to show it for you.</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Good luck today with the batt=
ery replacement and you might wish to compare the voltage reading pre and p=
ost battery swaps.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:sma=
ll"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">best,<=
/div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><br></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">doug</div></div><br><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 9, =
2024 at 10:39=E2=80=AFPM Dwade Reinsch &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dreinsch@swbel=
l.net">dreinsch@swbell.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,2=
04,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Ne=
ue&quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">This afternoon I was sitting in the 2016 Honda Ody=
ssey van waiting for granddaughter to finish a theater activity and I went =
to sleep in the front seat.=C2=A0 Had the radio and inside lights on.=C2=A0=
 When she finished and came out, car would not start.=C2=A0 Completely dead=
.=C2=A0 Electric seat would not come back to driving position, etc.</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Here&#39;s the question:=C2=A0 In=
 the old days a weak battery would give notice by cranking slowly, etc., be=
fore failing.=C2=A0 This is the car I drive regularly and it gave NO warnin=
g.=C2=A0 Luckily, I could call son-in-law and he came to help.=C2=A0 Would =
not start with good set of booster cables.=C2=A0 Would not start with 15 mi=
nutes of charging on cables before attempting to start.=C2=A0 So in the mor=
ning I&#39;ll take pickup and tools and pull battery, get a replacement, an=
d move the van home.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Does =
anyone have a suggestion for identifying a failing battery before being str=
anded?=C2=A0 (Battery is about 4 years old.)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Dwade</div></div></div>___=
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