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Yes. I wanted to get closer to the peddles, but extend my arm reach, so I c=
ut the seat where the lap belts pass and reclined the back more. I also sq=
ueezed the back rest to fit closer. I created a perfect seating position f=
or myself. I made mounting attachments, but a wrench is needed to move the=
seat for and aft and tilt/recline. =20
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> On 03/20/2024 10:23 AM PDT Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:
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> The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to being mo=
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> > I faced the same dilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5=E2=80=9D wide pan and a 17=
=E2=80=9D wide Kirkey to fit.
> > =20
> > My Chuck Gee approved modification was achieved with some =E2=80=9Cre-c=
ontouring=E2=80=9D of the inside pan lip with a 5 pound engineering hammer.
> > =20
> > A perfect fit was soon created=E2=80=A6
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eam.net> wrote:
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> > >=20
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> > > Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a=
seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting d=
own into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr=C3=B6dinger's bucket?).=
I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no r=
oom with the original cage in place.
> > > =20
> > > While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have ti=
me, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.
> > > =20
> > > I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many =
dormant years. Be safe, have fun!
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> > > > Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made b=
y Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked O=
K in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found o=
nly one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.
> > > >=20
> > > > https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-1=
0-to-20-Layback=20
> > > >=20
> > > > Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing=
.
> > > >=20
> > > > When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso f=
irmly when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple=
drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different =
widths, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the =
a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snu=
g for one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remembe=
r you can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the ri=
ght places) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.=20
> > > >=20
> > > > The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car,=
I welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for=
the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where=
the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washer=
s under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially conside=
ring the 60 year old sheet metal.
> > > >=20
> > > > Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!
> > > >=20
> > > > Henry Frye
> > > >=20
> > > > On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:
> > > >=20
> > > > > Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff back=
ed short TR3A seat. A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around t=
he roll bar. Suggested is an understatement. =20
> > > > > =20
> > > > > My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs. He is configured =
differently than I and 38 years younger.
> > > > > =20
> > > > > Now the question of which seat? =20
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<span style=3D"font-family: helvetica; font-size: 12pt;">Yes. I wanted t=
o get closer to the peddles, but extend my arm reach, so I cut the seat whe=
re the lap belts pass and reclined the back more. I also squeezed the=
back rest to fit closer. I created a perfect seating position for my=
self. I made mounting attachments, but a wrench is needed to move the=
seat for and aft and tilt/recline. </span>
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</div> The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to =
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I faced the same dilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5=E2=80=9D wide pan and a =
17=E2=80=9D wide Kirkey to fit.
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My Chuck Gee approved modification was achieved with some =E2=80=9Cr=
e-contouring=E2=80=9D of the inside pan lip with a 5 pound engineering hamm=
er.
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<br clear=3D"none">Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge fo=
r guys like us is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing h=
ips, while still fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Sc=
hr=C3=B6dinger's bucket?). I would have preferred a full containment =
seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.
</div>=20
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While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you =
have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car eas=
ier.
</div>=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">
</div>=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">
I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service afte=
r many dormant years. Be safe, have fun!
</div>=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">
</div>=20
<div dir=3D"ltr">
Regards,
</div>=20
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Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"
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15px; color: #7b6af6; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On Wednesday, M=
arch 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<=
/p>=20
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<p>Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most a=
re made by Kirkey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and=
looked OK in our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 =
I found only one that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38=
.</p>=20
<p><a href=3D"https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/=
38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-Layback" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener" sha=
pe=3D"rect">https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standa=
rd-10-to-20-Layback</a> </p>=20
<p>Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summ=
it Racing.</p>=20
<p>When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt an=
d torso firmly when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with=
multiple drivers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in d=
ifferent widths, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law si=
t in the a couple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is no=
t too snug for one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble=
, remember you can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam =
in the right places) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two driv=
ers. </p>=20
<p>The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under=
the car, I welded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to,=
same for the belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close=
to where the bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fend=
er washers under the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especiall=
y considering the 60 year old sheet metal.</p>=20
<p>Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!=
</p>=20
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Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original s=
tiff backed short TR3A seat. A highbacked seat with belts anchored lo=
oping around the roll bar. Suggested is an understatement.  =
;
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is configured differently than I and 38 years younger.
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Now the question of which seat?
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