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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Mark,<div><br></div><div>I faced the same d=
ilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5=E2=80=9D wide pan and a 17=E2=80=9D wide Kirkey to=
fit.</div><div><br></div><div>My Chuck Gee approved modification was achiev=
ed with some =E2=80=9Cre-contouring=E2=80=9D of the inside pan lip with a 5 p=
ound engineering hammer.</div><div><br></div><div>A perfect fit was soon cre=
ated=E2=80=A6</div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On M=
ar 20, 2024, at 8:38=E2=80=AFAM, Mark Fisher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net&=
gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"l=
tr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp2c072190yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family=
:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:18px;"><div id=3D"ydp2c07=
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<br clear=3D"none">Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us=
is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while stil=
l fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr<span></span><=
span>=C3=B6</span>dinger's bucket?). I would have preferred a full con=
tainment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" d=
ata-setdir=3D"false">While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, i=
f you have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the ca=
r easier.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track=
service after many dormant years. Be safe, have fun!</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>Regards,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II=
(a)"</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br clear=3D"none"><div cla=
ss=3D"ydp2c072190yiv7687092718yahoo-signature"><a shape=3D"rect" style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12px;" href=3D"https://more.att.com/currently/imap"; rel=3D"nofollow"=
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</div></div></div><div id=3D"yiv7687092718yqt83889" class=3D"yiv7687092718yq=
t5169138052"><p style=3D"font-size:15px;color:rgb(132, 115, 255);padding-top=
:15px;margin-top:0px;" class=3D"yiv7687092718yahoo-quoted-begin">On Wednesda=
y, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv7687092718iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv7687092718">=
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<p>Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirk=
ey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in ou=
r cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one t=
hat fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.</p>
<p><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-=
to-20-Layback">https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Stan=
dard-10-to-20-Layback</a> </p>
<p>Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.</p>
<p>When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly w=
hen strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers=
that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, a=
nd it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple t=
o verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for one a=
nd not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you can al=
ways fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right places) t=
o take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers. </p>
<p>The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I wel=
ded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the be=
lts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bol=
ts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under t=
he sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the 6=
0 year old sheet metal.</p>
<p>Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!</p>
<p>Henry Frye</p>
<div id=3D"yiv7687092718yqtfd67550" class=3D"yiv7687092718yqt6348686874"><p i=
d=3D"yiv7687092718reply-intro">On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote=
:</p>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stif=
f backed short TR3A seat. A highbacked seat with belts anchored loopin=
g around the roll bar. Suggested is an understatement. </di=
v>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs. He is c=
onfigured differently than I and 38 years younger.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Now the question of which seat? </div>
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