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To: Brad Eells <tr4abrad@gmail.com>, Mark Fisher <efishers@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
From: Erik Jacobsen via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 17:23:24 +0000 (UTC)
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The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to being modi=
fied pretty well.=C2=A0


Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 11:30 AM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote:

Mark,
I faced the same dilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5=E2=80=9D wide pan and a 17=E2=
=80=9D wide Kirkey to fit.
My Chuck Gee approved modification was achieved with some =E2=80=9Cre-conto=
uring=E2=80=9D of the inside pan lip with a 5 pound engineering hammer.
A perfect fit was soon created=E2=80=A6
Brad EellsSent from my iPhone

On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:38=E2=80=AFAM, Mark Fisher via Fot <fot@autox.team.ne=
t> wrote:



=EF=BB=BF
Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a seat =
that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting down in=
to the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr=C3=B6dinger's bucket?).=C2=A0=
 I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no ro=
om with the original cage in place.

While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have time, it=
 would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.
I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many dorman=
t years.=C2=A0 Be safe, have fun!
Regards,

Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:


Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey=
. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our=
 cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one =
that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-=
Layback=C2=A0

Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.

When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly wh=
en strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers=
 that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, =
and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple=
 to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for on=
e and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you ca=
n always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right plac=
es) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.=C2=A0

The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I welde=
d brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the bel=
ts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bol=
ts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under =
the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the=
 60 year old sheet metal.

Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!

Henry Frye

On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:

Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short T=
R3A seat.=C2=A0 A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the ro=
ll bar.=C2=A0 Suggested is an understatement.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0My son-in-la=
w and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.=C2=A0 He is configured differently than =
I and 38 years younger.=C2=A0Now the question of which seat?=C2=A0=C2=A0
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The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to being modi=
fied pretty well.&nbsp;<br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a style=
=3D"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3Dnativep=
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r iPhone</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-siz=
e: 15px; color: rgb(132, 115, 255); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On=
 Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 11:30 AM, Brad Eells via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team=
.net&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv7893561037"=
><div>Mark,<div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I faced the same dilemma. My =
Mk3 had a 16.5=E2=80=9D wide pan and a 17=E2=80=9D wide Kirkey to fit.</div=
><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>My Chuck Gee approved modification was =
achieved with some =E2=80=9Cre-contouring=E2=80=9D of the inside pan lip wi=
th a 5 pound engineering hammer.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>A =
perfect fit was soon created=E2=80=A6</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"yiv7893561037yqtfd13924" class=3D"yiv7893561037yqt33316=
56726"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:3=
8=E2=80=AFAM, Mark Fisher via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:<br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type=3D"=
cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"yiv7893561037yqtfd38278" class=3D"yiv7893=
561037yqt3331656726">=EF=BB=BF<div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, ne=
w york, times, serif;font-size:18px;" class=3D"yiv7893561037ydp2c072190yaho=
o-style-wrap"><div id=3D"yiv7893561037ydp2c072190yiv7687092718"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">
<br clear=3D"none">Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like u=
s is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while st=
ill fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr<span></spa=
n><span>=C3=B6</span>dinger's bucket?).&nbsp; I would have preferred a full=
 containment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in p=
lace.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you=
 have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car ea=
sier.</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I am =
bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many dormant yea=
rs.&nbsp; Be safe, have fun!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">Regards,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br cle=
ar=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincib=
le II(a)"</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv7893561=
037ydp2c072190yiv7687092718yahoo-signature"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener nor=
eferrer" shape=3D"rect" style=3D"font-size:12px;" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"https://more.att.com/currently/imap";>Sent from AT&amp;T Yahoo Mail for iPh=
one</a><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none">
</div></div></div><div id=3D"yiv7893561037yqt83889" class=3D"yiv7893561037y=
qt5169138052"><p style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(123, 106, 246); paddi=
ng-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;" class=3D"yiv7893561037yahoo-quoted-begin">O=
n Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.n=
et&gt; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv7893561037iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv=
7893561037"><div>
<p>Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kir=
key. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in =
our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only o=
ne that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.</p>
<p><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-=
10-to-20-Layback">https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-=
Standard-10-to-20-Layback</a>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.</p>
<p>When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly=
 when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple driv=
ers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different width=
s, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a cou=
ple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for=
 one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you=
 can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right p=
laces) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.&nbsp;</p>
<p>The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I we=
lded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the =
belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the =
bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers und=
er the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering =
the 60 year old sheet metal.</p>
<p>Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!</p>
<p>Henry Frye</p>
<div id=3D"yiv7893561037yqtfd67550" class=3D"yiv7893561037yqt6348686874"><p=
 id=3D"yiv7893561037reply-intro">On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wr=
ote:</p>
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solid;margin:0;">
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-size:13px;" class=3D"yiv7893561037v1yahoo-style-wrap">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original sti=
ff backed short TR3A seat.&nbsp; A highbacked seat with belts anchored loop=
ing around the roll bar.&nbsp; Suggested is an understatement.&nbsp;&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.&nbsp; He is=
 configured differently than I and 38 years younger.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Now the question of which seat?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
</div>
</div>
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