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To: yellow04 <yellow04@tr4racer.com>, "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] 1959 TR3A Driver's Seat Recommendations
From: Mark Fisher via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 13:55:54 +0000 (UTC)
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Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us is to get a seat =
that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while still fitting down in=
to the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr=C3=B6dinger's bucket?).=C2=A0=
 I would have preferred a full containment seat, but there was simply no ro=
om with the original cage in place.

While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have time, it=
 would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.
I am bringing a pair of Spitfires back into track service after many dorman=
t years.=C2=A0 Be safe, have fun!
Regards,

Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone


On Wednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:


Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirkey=
. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in our=
 cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one =
that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.

https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-to-20-=
Layback=C2=A0

Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.

When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly wh=
en strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers=
 that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, =
and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple=
 to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for on=
e and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you ca=
n always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right plac=
es) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.=C2=A0

The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I welde=
d brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the bel=
ts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bol=
ts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under =
the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the=
 60 year old sheet metal.

Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!

Henry Frye

On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote:

Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stiff backed short T=
R3A seat.=C2=A0 A highbacked seat with belts anchored looping around the ro=
ll bar.=C2=A0 Suggested is an understatement.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0My son-in-la=
w and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.=C2=A0 He is configured differently than =
I and 38 years younger.=C2=A0Now the question of which seat?=C2=A0=C2=A0
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iv id=3D"ydp2c072190yiv7687092718"><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">
<br clear=3D"none">Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like u=
s is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while st=
ill fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr<span></spa=
n><span>=C3=B6</span>dinger's bucket?).&nbsp; I would have preferred a full=
 containment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in p=
lace.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you =
snugly, if you have time, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit=
 in the car easier.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I am bringing a pair of Spitfires bac=
k into track service after many dormant years.&nbsp; Be safe, have fun!</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false">Regards,<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br=
></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder o=
f "Invincible II(a)"</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br clear=
=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp2c072190yiv7687092718yahoo-signature"><a shape=
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op:15px;margin-top:0px;" class=3D"yiv7687092718yahoo-quoted-begin">On Wedne=
sday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; =
wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv7687092718iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv7687092=
718"><div>
<p>Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kir=
key. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in =
our cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only o=
ne that fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.</p>
<p><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank"=
 href=3D"https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-=
10-to-20-Layback">https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-=
Standard-10-to-20-Layback</a>&nbsp;</p>
<p>Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.</p>
<p>When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly=
 when strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple driv=
ers that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different width=
s, and it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a cou=
ple to verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for=
 one and not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you=
 can always fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right p=
laces) to take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers.&nbsp;</p>
<p>The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I we=
lded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the =
belts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the =
bolts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers und=
er the sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering =
the 60 year old sheet metal.</p>
<p>Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!</p>
<p>Henry Frye</p>
<div id=3D"yiv7687092718yqtfd67550" class=3D"yiv7687092718yqt6348686874"><p=
 id=3D"yiv7687092718reply-intro">On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wr=
ote:</p>
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solid;margin:0;">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original sti=
ff backed short TR3A seat.&nbsp; A highbacked seat with belts anchored loop=
ing around the roll bar.&nbsp; Suggested is an understatement.&nbsp;&nbsp;<=
/div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs.&nbsp; He is=
 configured differently than I and 38 years younger.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">&nbsp;</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Now the question of which seat?&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
</div>
</div>
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