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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Multiple SCCA National Champions, Steve Sar=
gis has done this.<div><br></div><div>Not sure in what time period that beca=
me permitted.</div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D=
"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><bl=
ockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 20, 2024, at 11:23=E2=80=AFAM, Erik Jacobsen &=
lt;kekjacobsen@yahoo.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote ty=
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The Kirkey seats are a fairly malleable aluminum so they take to being modif=
ied pretty well. <br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a style=3D=
"font-size:12px" href=3D"https://mail.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3Dnativeplace=
ment&c=3DGlobal_Acquisition_YMktg_315_Internal_EmailSignature&af_sub=
1=3DAcquisition&af_sub2=3DGlobal_YMktg&af_sub3=3D&af_sub4=3D1000=
00604&af_sub5=3DEmailSignature__Static_">Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone=
</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" style=3D"font-size: 15px; c=
olor: rgb(132, 115, 255); padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;">On Wednesday,=
March 20, 2024, 11:30 AM, Brad Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wro=
te:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv7893561037"><div>Mark,<d=
iv><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>I faced the same dilemma. My Mk3 had a 16.5=
=E2=80=9D wide pan and a 17=E2=80=9D wide Kirkey to fit.</div><div><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div>My Chuck Gee approved modification was achieved with so=
me =E2=80=9Cre-contouring=E2=80=9D of the inside pan lip with a 5 pound engi=
neering hammer.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>A perfect fit was so=
on created=E2=80=A6</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"y=
iv7893561037yqtfd13924" class=3D"yiv7893561037yqt3331656726"><br clear=3D"no=
ne"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Mar 20, 2024, at 8:38=E2=80=AFAM, Mark Fish=
er via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"=
none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr"><d=
iv id=3D"yiv7893561037yqtfd38278" class=3D"yiv7893561037yqt3331656726">=EF=BB=
=BF<div style=3D"font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-si=
ze:18px;" class=3D"yiv7893561037ydp2c072190yahoo-style-wrap"><div id=3D"yiv7=
893561037ydp2c072190yiv7687092718"><div dir=3D"ltr">
<br clear=3D"none">Just bought a Kirkey 38170.The challenge for guys like us=
is to get a seat that is wide enough for our child bearing hips, while stil=
l fitting down into the channel in the pan on a Spitfire (Schr<span></span><=
span>=C3=B6</span>dinger's bucket?). I would have preferred a full con=
tainment seat, but there was simply no room with the original cage in place.=
<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D=
"ltr">While I am reasonably sure a 17" would fit you snugly, if you have tim=
e, it would be worth trying on a 16" as it would fit in the car easier.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I am bringing a p=
air of Spitfires back into track service after many dormant years. Be s=
afe, have fun!</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">Regards,<br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">Mark "Silo" Fisher, builder of "Invincible II(a)"</div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"yiv7893561037ydp2c072190yiv7=
687092718yahoo-signature"><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"r=
ect" style=3D"font-size:12px;" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://more.att.co=
m/currently/imap">Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail for iPhone</a><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><br clear=3D"none">
</div></div></div><div id=3D"yiv7893561037yqt83889" class=3D"yiv7893561037yq=
t5169138052"><p style=3D"font-size: 15px; color: rgb(123, 106, 246); padding=
-top: 15px; margin-top: 0px;" class=3D"yiv7893561037yahoo-quoted-begin">On W=
ednesday, March 20, 2024, 5:49 AM, yellow04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net&g=
t; wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv7893561037iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv78935=
61037"><div>
<p>Out east, it seems the budget friendly seats we see most are made by Kirk=
ey. There used to be a couple of models that worked well and looked OK in ou=
r cars, but 10 years ago when I bought the seat for my TR3 I found only one t=
hat fit the bill. I seem to remember it was the Series 38.</p>
<p><a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" h=
ref=3D"https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Standard-10-=
to-20-Layback">https://www.kirkeyracing.com/category/Series38/38-Series-Stan=
dard-10-to-20-Layback</a> </p>
<p>Figure a little over $500 for the seat and cover from Summit Racing.</p>
<p>When choosing a seat, you want one that holds your butt and torso firmly w=
hen strapped in, and since you will be sharing the car with multiple drivers=
that may turn out to be a compromise. The seats come in different widths, a=
nd it really helps to have both you and the son-in-law sit in the a couple t=
o verify the fit. Hopefully you will find one that is not too snug for one a=
nd not too loose for the other. If you run into trouble, remember you can al=
ways fabricate a foam insert (or just stuff some foam in the right places) t=
o take up excess room for the smaller of the two drivers. </p>
<p>The seat needs to be attached to some real structure under the car, I wel=
ded brackets off the frame to give me real steel to bolt to, same for the be=
lts. A pretty easy task on a TR3, the frame is pretty close to where the bol=
ts came through the floor on Old Blue. Just using big fender washers under t=
he sheet metal floor is not the best way to go, especially considering the 6=
0 year old sheet metal.</p>
<p>Good luck, and I hope you guys make it to the Kastner Cup!</p>
<p>Henry Frye</p>
<div id=3D"yiv7893561037yqtfd67550" class=3D"yiv7893561037yqt6348686874"><p i=
d=3D"yiv7893561037reply-intro">On 2024-03-20 01:47, Ken Hollar via Fot wrote=
:</p>
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olid;margin:0;">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Scrutineering suggested a new era seat vs the original stif=
f backed short TR3A seat. A highbacked seat with belts anchored loopin=
g around the roll bar. Suggested is an understatement. </di=
v>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">My son-in-law and I are both 6'1" and 230 lbs. He is c=
onfigured differently than I and 38 years younger.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"> </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Now the question of which seat? </div>
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