during the first half of fun runs there was a person in a red jacket taking
pictures on course while cars whizzed by behind him. no spotter. i tried
to yell at him but i dont know if he heard me due to the wind. in any case,
look out for him next time.
the rule as i know it is that you have to keep your hands/arms inside the
car... i.e. dont hang onto the door with your fingers out the window at all.
you just tell them they cant do it. sorry, if you cant drive the car safely
then you cant drive it on course. and it doesnt matter if was a man or
woman... same safety rules applies to both.
-James Creasy
Slip Angle Racing www.klio.net/cobra
BAPOC www.klio.net/probe
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Umbay <greg_umbay@yahoo.com>
To: Bay Area Autocross <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:54 AM
Subject: A safetty question
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>I have a serious question regarding driver/worker safety. I would like to
first say that I am not trying to bad mouth any person(s) or
organization(s). While working the course I noticed a driver who was
steering the wheel with the right hand and holding onto the door with the
left hand. I radioed in asking someone to talk to that person. (I am
unaware if anyone went to talk to the driver) Later the same car/driver
came around again using the same one handed technique. I used common sense
and stayed away from that car/driver, putting course work priority after
safety. After the run group I found that driver and mentioned that 2 hands
on the wheel was important for safety. The driver replied that the car's
stock seat belts did not hold well and had to use one hand to hold on to the
car. (I am trying not to be gender specific on purpose.) The driver's body
size was small and did not fit into the car well. I suggested to adjust the
seats, which was done but still a o!
>ne handed technique was used. I also suggested a 5 point harness. The
reply was "It's not my car."
>
>My question is where do we draw the line of safety?
>
>We are all volunteers and we come out to have fun. Should we or can we
stop a person from driving because of safety? I understand that we can stop
a car for mechanical and or technical reasons. But can we stop a driver
based on the fact that the driver cannot sit in a car properly, risking
loosing control of the car?
>
>Again, I am not trying to bash or trash talk at all.
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><P>I have a serious question regarding driver/worker safety. I would
like to first say that I am not trying to bad mouth any person(s) or
organization(s). While working the course I noticed a driver who was
steering the wheel with the right hand and holding onto the door with
the left hand. I radioed in asking someone to talk to that
person. (I am unaware if anyone went to talk to the driver)
Later the same car/driver came around again using the same one handed
technique. I used common sense and stayed away from that car/driver,
putting course work priority after safety. After the run group I found
that driver and mentioned that 2 hands on the wheel was important for
safety. The driver replied that the car's stock seat belts did not
hold well and had to use one hand to hold on to the car. (I am trying
not to be gender specific on purpose.) The driver's body size was
small and did not fit into the!
> car well. I suggested to adjust the seats, which was done but still
a one handed technique was used. I also suggested a 5 point
harness. The reply was "It's not my car."</P>
><P>My question is where do we draw the line of safety?</P>
><P>We are all volunteers and we come out to have fun. Should we or
can we stop a person from driving because of safety? I understand that
we can stop a car for mechanical and or technical reasons. But can we
stop a driver based on the fact that the driver cannot sit in a car
properly, risking loosing control of the car?</P>
><P>Again, I am not trying to bash or trash talk at all.
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