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Fw: [mrpca] AutoX wreck photo here

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Subject: Fw: [mrpca] AutoX wreck photo here
From: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org>
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 11:44:07 -0700
OOOh!  A crunched Subaru at ?Willow Springs?

http://gpl.gamestats.com/autoXwreck.jpg


Anybody know the story?

Jerry Mouton        mailto:jerry@moutons.org    Laissez les bons temps
rouler!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cyril Reif" <creif@att.net>
To: "Jerry Mouton" <jerry@moutons.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 9:32 AM
Subject: Fw: [mrpca] AutoX wreck photo here


> FYI....the picture looks like it was at a road corse, not an autocross???
> Cyril
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mitch Williams" <mitchwil@flash.net>
> To: <mrpca@egroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [mrpca] Fw: [ntpog forum] AutoX wreck photo here
>
>
> > John,
> > Nasty picture, It would make anyone worry.  I've never seen anything
like
> > this in over 10 years of AXing.  I've seen wheels rolling across the
> course
> > by themselves as the car grounded to a halt (sheared all 5 lugs).  I've
> seen
> > pictures of a car that got caught on a guide wire for a telephone pole
at
> a
> > street autocross (Rabbitfest--no longer held).  I've seen accidents and
> car
> > damage at road-racing events, but not at an AX.
> > Do you have more info on what happened just before this car rolled?  We
> all
> > know that you can take ANY CAR and get going 60+ mph and jerk the
steering
> > wheel suddenly all the way to lock in one direction...either the car
will
> > spin or the outside front tire in dig in and produce a roll.   The
higher
> > the center of gravity the better chance for a roll.  Of course if the
car
> is
> > sliding and hits a curb, it could induce a roll.  I'm not telling you
> > anything new.
> >
> > I can't remember what Subaru calls this car (Impreneza???) but it is
> geared
> > towards rally racing and has a higher center of gravity than some cars.
> > It's hard to say what might have happened.  But bottom line, the answer
is
> > that *I* haven't seen anything like this before.  Hope you can convience
> > your Prelude guys that this type of problem is unheard of.
> > Mitch
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John <john@4x4evolution.com>
> > To: mrpca@egroups.com <mrpca@egroups.com>
> > Date: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:49 AM
> > Subject: Re: [mrpca] Fw: [ntpog forum] AutoX wreck photo here
> >
> >
> > >Here is a link to the image:
> > >
> > >http://gpl.gamestats.com/autoXwreck.jpg
> > >
> > >- John O'Keefe
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: John <john@terminalreality.com>
> > >To: <mrpca@egroups.com>; <mrpca@egroups.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 10:38 AM
> > >Subject: [mrpca] Fw: [ntpog forum] AutoX wreck photo here
> > >
> > >
> > >> One of the guys in the Prelude club sent this image to the Prelude
> list.
> > >To
> > >> me it looks like it occurred on a race track. In the background you
can
> > >see
> > >> what looks like Willow Springs or the streets of willow springs.
> > >>
> > >> Has anyone ever seen a car roll in an autocross? The only time I have
> > ever
> > >> seen something go wrong is when a car hits a solid object that was
too
> > >close
> > >> to the course.
> > >>
> > >> - John O'Keefe
>
>
>


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