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21. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Jeff Lloyd" <Jeff@cyberconceptz.com>; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:03:42 -0400; Thank you, Dennis That is what I've been trying to say Jeff And here we go again with someone else extorting the virtues of a "run whatcha brung" class, blablabla ad nauseum, without actually READING; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00906.html (11,426 bytes)
22. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Kelly, Katie" <kkelly@spss.com>; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:04:41 -0700; Dennis Grant writes... the appeal outside of a local area, you start needing rules to keep a handle on things, or the class gets ruined, participation falls off, and poof! No more class.< Do you have; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00909.html (9,046 bytes)
23. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Rick Brown" <free2000@quixnet.net>; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 17:51:46 -0700; <snip> be be It seems to me that is kinda how it is in any class at national level. I suspect that most, if not all, of the winning cars are prepared to the max the rules allow (read $$$). Being a l; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00916.html (9,040 bytes)
24. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: brandon.fetch@ey.com; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:29:44 -0500; Rick Brown FP 240Z Hmmm.....I'm really wanting a Viper... ;-) Seriously, I'm wanting to build an A-body Mopar and thinking about ESP (just to give the BMW/Pony car boys something else to complain abo; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00919.html (9,407 bytes)
25. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Dave Whitworth" <dave@wcsllc.net>; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 20:42:22 -0500; I know that this will get everybody going, but my OPINION is that is much cheaper to get a mod/prepared car to a winning state when you look at it long term. For example, a Ralt RT-4 BM car can be h; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00921.html (11,658 bytes)
26. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Bradley H. Lamont" <lamont@mailhost.org>; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 21:11:42 -0500; Actually Dennis, I'd have to disagree with you on that. You had a good year, and a few other people had a good year with SM, but I really can't agree that it was a success. Looking at the pro results; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00923.html (11,067 bytes)
27. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Steven T. Ekstrand" <cyberlaw@earthlink.net>; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 19:14:25 -0700; You could use the original 170cu in /6 with twin turbos or a supercharger. I kinda like the idea of a 67-69 Barracuda with fiberglass front fenders/hood with opened wheelwells and 315 front rubber.; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00924.html (8,943 bytes)
28. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Don Kline" <solo2dmmr2@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 02:29:39 GMT; I still think that SM should be a regional only class, with no national level classes. It should be a catch-all for people who show up to events with cars not prepared to SCCA rules so they don't run; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00927.html (8,732 bytes)
29. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: Smokerbros@aol.com; Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 22:34:59 EDT; << My point is that from a purely dollar standpoint, it is MUCH cheaper to run/build a prepared car versus a stock car. >> I went through the same debate before embarking on my CP project. I was look; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00928.html (8,865 bytes)
30. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Kent Rafferty" <gs96@sgi.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:07:54 -0400; I wonder how spread out the trophies were by marque in BSP, ASP, ESP, or even CSP? SM was a new class this year and many interested national level drivers were taking a "wait-and-see" approach to the; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00949.html (12,333 bytes)
31. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Kent Rafferty" <gs96@sgi.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:00:59 -0400; I'm finding perception is a big part of it. Show up in your street car and find you're running against a tube-framed, gutted, slick-shod race car and that'll take the wind out of your sails quickly.; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00950.html (8,913 bytes)
32. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:19:18 -0400 (EDT); Yeah, I agree. To say that since only 4 marques trophying (or whatever the statement was) means the class doesn't have a "level playing field" is laughable. I challenge you to find any other class i; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00951.html (10,041 bytes)
33. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Brandon C. Fetch" <brandon.fetch@ey.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 8:54:59 -0500; And when would you want to begin work on this beast? I'm in Texas. :-) Finding a 67-69 Cuda without the typical cancer for a decent price is always the catch.... BTW, you don't get much when you mort; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00952.html (10,153 bytes)
34. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Richard Atkins" <buzz@indiana.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:30:59 -0500; I agree, we don't need Natinal class I still think that SM should be a regional only class, with no national level classes. It should be a catch-all for people who show up to events with cars not pre; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00957.html (8,559 bytes)
35. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Richard Atkins" <buzz@indiana.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 09:34:11 -0500; He speaks the truth! - But from the outside, I see it as a private playground where just a few cars are competitive. I do agree with the need for an SM class, but I can't really say that this year it; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00959.html (8,261 bytes)
36. RE: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: dg50@daimlerchrysler.com; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 10:44:11 -0400; like possibly So far, so good - with one caveat. It is possible, if one has a region where the local competition is particularly cutthroat, for things to get out of hand even at the local/regional l; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00965.html (13,312 bytes)
37. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "John Gross" <jogross3@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:23:24 GMT; Did anyone else notice the commonality with those trophy cars? They're all boosted IRS cars. _________________________________________________________________________; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00973.html (12,424 bytes)
38. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Mark J. Andy" <marka@telerama.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:37:41 -0400 (EDT); Wow! I didn't realize that Karl had stuck an IRS rear end and turbo on his _camaro_. Mark; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00978.html (8,192 bytes)
39. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "John Gross" <jogross3@hotmail.com>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 15:40:37 GMT; Ok, the MAJORITY of them....geez. _________________________________________________________________________; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00979.html (8,642 bytes)
40. Re: BSM/SM2 (score: 1): Author: "Kent Rafferty" <gs96@sgi.net>; Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 11:40:14 -0400; So that's why Karl's Camaro was so quick all year - he turbocharged it and added an independent rear. He's sneaky that way :-) Kent Rafferty trophy cars? They're all said: hey! Look! We did a that. Y; /html/autox/2000-09/msg00983.html (13,015 bytes)

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