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Thank you John for your kind thoughts, I am sure we all share them with you.=
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BTW, who on this list besides yourself are former S-T employees?
All the best,
Bill
On Aug 13, 2020, at 4:50 PM, keithstewart@bell.net wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
Thanks for this meaningful response John. As always, you have covered this t=
opic in not only a meaningful manner, but also a heart-warming one.
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Cheers
Keith
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From: John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>=20
Sent: August 12, 2020 5:02 PM
To: andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Missing Randall Young in more ways than one
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I too greatly miss Randall=E2=80=99s fascinating and proven techniques on ol=
d Triumph ownership and maintenance. Very few people who populate the email l=
ists run by Mark realise there are about five remaining former Standard Triu=
mph employees who are merely =E2=80=9Cwatchers=E2=80=9D on the lists and nev=
er make contributions of their own because their memories of how and why thi=
ngs were done the way they were when the cars were new, are now seriously ja=
ded with the passage of time. I have no hesitation including myself in that g=
roup for the simple fact that my own memory is seriously letting me down. It=
will continue to do so through the onset of vascular dementia.
=20
However, Randall amazed all of us with his expansive knowledge of techniques=
and options of safe and reliable shortcuts to keep the cars running and as =E2=
=80=9CCoventrians=E2=80=9D we thought we should accord him some form of hono=
urable title that had a particular Standard Triumph flavour.=20
=20
Together and as a group of Old F****s, it fell to me to inform him his new a=
nd very unofficial title which was The Marquess of Ivy Cottage. He accepted a=
nd sent us (through me) a most modest and touching letter of thanks.=20
=20
Now, many if not all of you, will have no idea of the origin or import of th=
e =E2=80=98title=E2=80=99 so I=E2=80=99ll explain. When the Standard Motor C=
ompany moved to its site at Canley, a Coventry suburb, the only building whi=
ch could house the myriad non production issues was a former three storey ho=
use that was covered in Virginia Creeper that everyone mistakenly called ivy=
.=20
=20
For a few years, Ivy Cottage was the only place in the company where one was=
likely to find answers to all sorts of questions. Even in my day in the 196=
0s, if you asked a colleague a question he or she couldn=E2=80=99t answer, t=
he reply was usually on the lines of =E2=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s a rum one, our k=
id. Best go to Ivy Cottage for yer answer.=E2=80=9D=20
=20
Of course, by that time, Ivy Cottage had gone through many different admin f=
unctions but =E2=80=98best go to Ivy Cottage=E2=80=99 was the lingua Franca w=
ithin the company to get your issue sorted out somewhere else.=20
=20
So you see, Randall=E2=80=99s endless responses to what must have seemed to h=
im to be tedious and repetitive in the extreme, were dealt with in the best c=
ompany tradition and with appropriate nomenclature.
=20
I know without any doubt that Randall *was* that essential backup that so ma=
ny listers sought and there=E2=80=99s no doubt in my mind that our decision a=
s former employees to bestow that title on him, was entirely just and in no w=
ay misplaced.=20
=20
I miss his contributions already even though I=E2=80=99ve been Triumph and f=
Ferguson tractor-less for nearly two decades. I=E2=80=99ll give google image=
s a thorough caning for an image of Ivy Cottage so all of you can see where t=
he Marquess had his official company seat. When I find what I want, I=E2=80=99=
ll post the link for you to do a click through and see for yourselves.
=20
Jonmac
At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:
Lord Uxbridge: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - I=E2=80=99ve lost my leg=E2=80=9D
Duke of Wellington: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - so you have!=E2=80=9D
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rmer S-T employees?</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">All the=
best,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bill</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Aug 13, 2020,=
at 4:50 PM, keithstewart@bell.net wrote:<br><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=
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oNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks for this meaningf=
ul response John. As always, you have covered this topic in not only a meani=
ngful manner, but also a heart-warming one.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Che=
ers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"mso-fareast-l=
anguage:EN-US">Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D=
"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-U=
S"> John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk> <br><b>Sent:</b> Aug=
ust 12, 2020 5:02 PM<br><b>To:</b> andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard=
.net><br><b>Cc:</b> triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] M=
issing Randall Young in more ways than one<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I too gre=
atly miss Randall=E2=80=99s fascinating and proven techniques on old Triumph=
ownership and maintenance. Very few people who populate the email lists run=
by Mark realise there are about five remaining former Standard Triumph empl=
oyees who are merely =E2=80=9Cwatchers=E2=80=9D on the lists and never make c=
ontributions of their own because their memories of how and why things were d=
one the way they were when the cars were new, are now seriously jaded with t=
he passage of time. I have no hesitation including myself in that group for t=
he simple fact that my own memory is seriously letting me down. It will cont=
inue to do so through the onset of vascular dementia.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ho=
wever, Randall amazed all of us with his expansive knowledge of techniques a=
nd options of safe and reliable shortcuts to keep the cars running and as =E2=
=80=9CCoventrians=E2=80=9D we thought we should accord him some form of hono=
urable title that had a particular Standard Triumph flavour. <o:p></o:p=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">Together and as a group of Old F****s, it fell to me to in=
form him his new and very unofficial title which was The Marquess of Ivy Cot=
tage. He accepted and sent us (through me) a most modest and touching letter=
of thanks. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> =
;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Now, many if not all of you, wi=
ll have no idea of the origin or import of the =E2=80=98title=E2=80=99 so I=E2=
=80=99ll explain. When the Standard Motor Company moved to its site at Canle=
y, a Coventry suburb, the only building which could house the myriad non pro=
duction issues was a former three storey house that was covered in Virginia C=
reeper that everyone mistakenly called ivy. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>For a few years, Ivy Cottage was the only place in the company where one wa=
s likely to find answers to all sorts of questions. Even in my day in the 19=
60s, if you asked a colleague a question he or she couldn=E2=80=99t answer, t=
he reply was usually on the lines of =E2=80=9Cthat=E2=80=99s a rum one, our k=
id. Best go to Ivy Cottage for yer answer.=E2=80=9D <o:p></o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">Of course, by that time, Ivy Cottage had gone through many differen=
t admin functions but =E2=80=98best go to Ivy Cottage=E2=80=99 was the lingu=
a Franca within the company to get your issue sorted out somewhere else.&nbs=
p;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So you see, Randall=E2=80=99s endless response=
s to what must have seemed to him to be tedious and repetitive in the extrem=
e, were dealt with in the best company tradition and with appropriate nomenc=
lature.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I know without any doubt that Randall *wa=
s* that essential backup that so many listers sought and there=E2=80=99s no d=
oubt in my mind that our decision as former employees to bestow that title o=
n him, was entirely just and in no way misplaced. <o:p></o:p></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">I miss his contributions already even though I=E2=80=99ve been Triump=
h and fFerguson tractor-less for nearly two decades. I=E2=80=99ll give googl=
e images a thorough caning for an image of Ivy Cottage so all of you can see=
where the Marquess had his official company seat. When I find what I want, I=
=E2=80=99ll post the link for you to do a click through and see for yourselv=
es.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">Jonmac<o:p></o=
:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:<o:p></o:=
p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lord Uxbridge: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir -=
I=E2=80=99ve lost my leg=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Duke of Wellington: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - so you have!=E2=80=9D<o:p>=
</o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.=
0pt"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></d=
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