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Jonmac,
Thank you for this very nice, very touching tribute and deserved honour. As=
a "Marquess" I believe Randall would have been considered to be a Nobleman=
, a man who consistently demonstrated honourable behaviour and leadership, =
among other excellent attributes. This was indeed Randall, a good and decen=
t man, always gracious, honorable and supportive. Randall freely shared his=
knowledge, insight and enthusiasm for all things Triumph in a way that nev=
er left anyone involved with Triumph's feeling subtly disparaged, or looked=
down on for their lack of knowledge or experience. Especially when one of =
us is confused by some mysterious Triumph ailment, often related to the dub=
ious quality of Lucas devices and methodology.
I truly and sadly miss Randall's emails and insight, his kindness and his u=
nending thoughtful explanations. I feel like something is missing from our =
Triumph community, a true a one of a kind, who cannot be replaced.
>From Randall's obituary: "Close family and friends of Mr. Randall C. Young =
will gather in the Vienna Public Cemetery, (Vienna Missouri) near the grave=
s of his parents, for his interment at 10:30 a.m., on Tuesday, August 18, 2=
020 by the Birmingham-Martin Funeral Home in Vienna."
Randall's obituary, including the option of lighting a candle in his memory=
and leaving a message for his family is here: https://www.birminghammartin=
funeralhomes.com/obituary/randall-young
I miss him.
Randall Reihing
Whitehouse, Ohio
[https://www.birminghammartinfuneralhomes.com/fh_live/13900/13982/images/ob=
ituaries/7060894_fbs.jpg]<https://www.birminghammartinfuneralhomes.com/obit=
uary/randall-young>
Obituary | Randall Charles Young of Lakewood, California | Birmingham-Marti=
n Funeral Home<https://www.birminghammartinfuneralhomes.com/obituary/randal=
l-young>
Randall Charles Young, of Lakewood, California, was born on August 3, 1955,=
at San Antonio, Texas, the son of John Earl and Nellie Lucille Henderson Y=
oung, and departed this life at 111 p.m., on Thursday, July 16, 2020, in La=
kewood Regional Medical Center, Lakewood, California. He had been in failin=
g
www.birminghammartinfuneralhomes.com
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Michael Marr =
<mmarr@albiontechnical.com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2020 7:13 PM
To: John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] Missing Randall Young in more ways than one
What a nice gesture, John.
Mike
Michael Marr
Mobile: 630-202-0065
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 12, 2020, at 16:03, John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk<mai=
lto:John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk>> wrote:
I too greatly miss Randall=92s fascinating and proven techniques on old Tri=
umph ownership and maintenance. Very few people who populate the email list=
s run by Mark realise there are about five remaining former Standard Triump=
h employees who are merely =93watchers=94 on the lists and never make contr=
ibutions of their own because their memories of how and why things were don=
e the way they were when the cars were new, are now seriously jaded with th=
e passage of time. I have no hesitation including myself in that group for =
the simple fact that my own memory is seriously letting me down. It will co=
ntinue to do so through the onset of vascular dementia.
However, Randall amazed all of us with his expansive knowledge of technique=
s and options of safe and reliable shortcuts to keep the cars running and a=
s =93Coventrians=94 we thought we should accord him some form of honourable=
title that had a particular Standard Triumph flavour.
Together and as a group of Old F****s, it fell to me to inform him his new =
and very unofficial title which was The Marquess of Ivy Cottage. He accepte=
d and sent us (through me) a most modest and touching letter of thanks.
Now, many if not all of you, will have no idea of the origin or import of t=
he =91title=92 so I=92ll explain. When the Standard Motor Company moved to =
its site at Canley, a Coventry suburb, the only building which could house =
the myriad non production issues was a former three storey house that was c=
overed in Virginia Creeper that everyone mistakenly called ivy.
For a few years, Ivy Cottage was the only place in the company where one wa=
s likely to find answers to all sorts of questions. Even in my day in the 1=
960s, if you asked a colleague a question he or she couldn=92t answer, the =
reply was usually on the lines of =93that=92s a rum one, our kid. Best go t=
o Ivy Cottage for yer answer.=94
Of course, by that time, Ivy Cottage had gone through many different admin =
functions but =91best go to Ivy Cottage=92 was the lingua Franca within the=
company to get your issue sorted out somewhere else.
So you see, Randall=92s endless responses to what must have seemed to him t=
o be tedious and repetitive in the extreme, were dealt with in the best com=
pany tradition and with appropriate nomenclature.
I know without any doubt that Randall *was* that essential backup that so m=
any listers sought and there=92s no doubt in my mind that our decision as f=
ormer employees to bestow that title on him, was entirely just and in no wa=
y misplaced.
I miss his contributions already even though I=92ve been Triumph and fFergu=
son tractor-less for nearly two decades. I=92ll give google images a thorou=
gh caning for an image of Ivy Cottage so all of you can see where the Marqu=
ess had his official company seat. When I find what I want, I=92ll post the=
link for you to do a click through and see for yourselves.
Jonmac
At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:
Lord Uxbridge: =93By God, Sir - I=92ve lost my leg=94
Duke of Wellington: =93By God, Sir - so you have!=94
On 12 Aug 2020, at 14:57, andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net<mailto=
:auprichard@uprichard.net>> wrote:
Every morning I browse various TR websites and chat pages. One trend I hav=
e noticed is various individuals who like to show how much they supposedly =
know by demeaning or ridiculing those of us who maybe don=92t know everythi=
ng there is to know. Goodness knows how many dumb questions I have asked o=
ver the years.
It made me think (again) about Randall. If anyone had the credentials to b=
e arrogant or condescending, he did. He knew more about these cars than mo=
st of us collectively ever will. Yet he was always kind and sincere. Some=
of you may remember the individual a few years ago who was trying to resto=
re a TR3 and asked the most fundamental of questions: Randall was consiste=
ntly patient and helpful while I am sure some of us rolled our eyes.
Maybe people are trying to assume Randall=92s mantle as the TR guru. Well,=
it isn=92t going to happen, people.
Please let me be clear =96 this list has always seemed to me a friendly and=
intimate place (with just a few exceptions). I have seen less traffic rec=
ently and I sincerely hope it continues for as long as we work on our belov=
ed cars. Mark does a great job and if I haven=92t thanked him enough, I ap=
ologize. Mark =96 remind us again how to contribute.
Andrew Uprichard
Jackson, Michigan
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Thank you for this very nice, very touching tribute and deserved honour. As=
a "Marquess" I believe Randall would have been considered to be =
a Nobleman, a man who consistently demonstrated honourable behaviour and le=
adership, among other excellent attributes.
This was indeed Randall, a good and decent man, always gracious, honorable=
and supportive. Randall freely shared his knowledge, insight and enthusias=
m for all things Triumph in a way that never left anyone involved with Triu=
mph's feeling subtly disparaged,
or looked down on for their lack of knowledge or experience. Especially wh=
en one of us is confused by some mysterious Triumph ailment, often related =
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I truly and sadly miss Randall's emails and insight, his kindness and his u=
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Triumph community, a true
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 12, 2020 7:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk><br>
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<div dir=3D"auto">What a nice gesture, John.
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<div>Mobile: 630-202-0065</div>
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On Aug 12, 2020, at 16:03, John Macartney <<a href=3D"mailto:John.Macart=
ney@ukpips.org.uk">John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I too greatly miss Randall=92s fascinating and proven tech=
niques on old Triumph ownership and maintenance. Very few people who popula=
te the email lists run by Mark realise there are about five remaining forme=
r Standard Triumph employees who are
merely =93watchers=94 on the lists and never make contributions of their o=
wn because their memories of how and why things were done the way they were=
when the cars were new, are now seriously jaded with the passage of time. =
I have no hesitation including myself
in that group for the simple fact that my own memory is seriously letting =
me down. It will continue to do so through the onset of vascular dementia.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However, Randall amazed all of us with his expansive knowledge of tech=
niques and options of safe and reliable shortcuts to keep the cars running =
and as =93Coventrians=94 we thought we should accord him some form of honou=
rable title that had a particular Standard
Triumph flavour. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Together and as a group of Old F****s, it fell to me to inform him his=
new and very unofficial title which was The Marquess of Ivy Cottage. He ac=
cepted and sent us (through me) a most modest and touching letter of thanks=
. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Now, many if not all of you, will have no idea of the origin or import=
of the =91title=92 so I=92ll explain. When the Standard Motor Company move=
d to its site at Canley, a Coventry suburb, the only building which could h=
ouse the myriad non production issues
was a former three storey house that was covered in Virginia Creeper that =
everyone mistakenly called ivy. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>For a few years, Ivy Cottage was the only place in the company where o=
ne was likely to find answers to all sorts of questions. Even in my day in =
the 1960s, if you asked a colleague a question he or she couldn=92t answer,=
the reply was usually on the lines
of =93that=92s a rum one, our kid. Best go to Ivy Cottage for yer answer.=
=94 </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Of course, by that time, Ivy Cottage had gone through many different a=
dmin functions but =91best go to Ivy Cottage=92 was the lingua Franca withi=
n the company to get your issue sorted out somewhere else. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>So you see, Randall=92s endless responses to what must have seemed to =
him to be tedious and repetitive in the extreme, were dealt with in the bes=
t company tradition and with appropriate nomenclature.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I know without any doubt that Randall *was* that essential backup that=
so many listers sought and there=92s no doubt in my mind that our decision=
as former employees to bestow that title on him, was entirely just and in =
no way misplaced. </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I miss his contributions already even though I=92ve been Triumph and f=
Ferguson tractor-less for nearly two decades. I=92ll give google images a t=
horough caning for an image of Ivy Cottage so all of you can see where the =
Marquess had his official company seat.
When I find what I want, I=92ll post the link for you to do a click throug=
h and see for yourselves.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Jonmac<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"x_AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">At the Battle of Waterloo, 181=
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<div>Duke of Wellington: =93By God, Sir - so you have!=94</div>
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On 12 Aug 2020, at 14:57, andrew uprichard <<a href=3D"mailto:auprichard=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Every morning I browse various TR websites and chat pages. =
; One trend I have noticed is various individuals who like to show how much=
they supposedly know by demeaning or ridiculing those
of us who maybe don=92t know everything there is to know. Goodness k=
nows how many dumb questions I have asked over the years.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">It made me think (again) about Randall. If anyone had the=
credentials to be arrogant or condescending, he did. He knew more ab=
out these cars than most of us collectively ever will.
Yet he was always kind and sincere. Some of you may remember the ind=
ividual a few years ago who was trying to restore a TR3 and asked the most =
fundamental of questions: Randall was consistently patient and helpfu=
l while I am sure some of us rolled our eyes.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Maybe people are trying to assume Randall=92s mantle as the TR =
guru. Well, it isn=92t going to happen, people.</span></p>
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uot;,serif"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Please let me be clear =96 this list has always seemed to me a =
friendly and intimate place (with just a few exceptions). I have seen=
less traffic recently and I sincerely hope it continues
for as long as we work on our beloved cars. Mark does a great job an=
d if I haven=92t thanked him enough, I apologize. Mark =96 remind us =
again how to contribute.</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Andrew Uprichard</span></p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman&q=
uot;,serif">Jackson, Michigan</span></p>
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