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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose
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I had the same trouble as everybody else, and the only relief I could =
get was to break the recovery seal, also. This went on for decades. One =
day I smelled some gas fumes in the car. After eliminating the carb as =
the source I started looking behind the trunk panels. I found a crack in =
the vent tube and another crack in the filler neck. Fixed both of those. =
Went to gas up, stuck the nozzle in, put the automatic trip on, and was =
shocked that the tanks filled completely. This was about a year ago. =
Every fill up since, even at different gas stations, has had the same =
result. Goes totally against logic and critical thinking, because =
previously the only way to get gas in was to break the seal. Now, with =
no way for air to enter the system, it fills up completely without any =
fuss. Go figure!

=20

Kirk

=20

=20

=20

=20

From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of M Lafayette =
via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:31 PM
To: jbsyv@yahoo.com; tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose

=20

Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into =
the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.


In a message dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, =

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Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. =
I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a =
PITA though. Never tried the upside down method.

=20

On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net =

=20

=20

You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas =
pumps).

All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or =
so.

Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed =
for the new pumps.

So there is nothing you can do.

When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises =
and the pump shuts

off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground.=20

I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and =
just barely open the

trigger, takes forever.

Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better.  I =
just tried this again

and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.

Gary

=20

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On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <gregdawg89@hotmail.com =

=20

=20

It does that with my Tiger too. =F0=9F=99=81

=20

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From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:53 PM
To: Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net =
Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose=20

=20

I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes me =
at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks.  It takes the first =
8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever.  I must squeak in =
.1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas =
to settle in the tanks before adding more.

=20

The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe.  No gas =
fumes in trunk.  Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate.  =
When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 =
gallons on the gauge.

=20

Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening and potential =
fix would be appreciated.

=20

Regards

=20

Joel Martin

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>I had the same trouble as =
everybody else, and the only relief I could get was to break the =
recovery seal, also. This went on for decades. One day I smelled some =
gas fumes in the car. After eliminating the carb as the source I started =
looking behind the trunk panels. I found a crack in the vent tube and =
another crack in the filler neck. Fixed both of those. Went to gas up, =
stuck the nozzle in, put the automatic trip on, and was shocked that the =
tanks filled completely. This was about a year ago. Every fill up since, =
even at different gas stations, has had the same result. Goes totally =
against logic and critical thinking, because previously the only way to =
get gas in was to break the seal. Now, with no way for air to enter the =
system, it fills up completely without any fuss. Go =
figure!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Kirk<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Tigers =
&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>M Lafayette =
via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:31 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> jbsyv@yahoo.com; =
tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent =
hose<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>See=
ms like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into =
the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><br>In a message dated =
9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes: =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div =
id=3Dyiv1941385947><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt'>Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back =
the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe =
and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down =
method.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div id=3Dyiv1941385947yqt98161><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net";>garywinblad@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></d=
iv><div id=3Dyiv1941385947yqt34050><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor =
recovery gas pumps).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>All =
13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or =
so.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Old cars don't have =
the on-board carbon canister system that is needed for the new =
pumps.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>So there is nothing =
you can do.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>When the =
nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises and the =
pump shuts<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>off, always =
spilling gas down the side and onto the =
ground.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have to =
hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and just =
barely open the<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>trigger, =
takes forever.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Some guys =
hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better.&nbsp; I just =
tried this again<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>and it =
did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried =
it.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Gary<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:gregdawg89@hotmail.com";>gregdawg89@hotmail.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>It does that with my =
Tiger too. </span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif'>&#128577;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dyiv1941385947appendonsend><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal =
align=3Dcenter style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"98%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3Dyiv1941385947divRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></strong> Tigers =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>tigers-bounces@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt; on behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><s=
trong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> =
Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:53 PM<br><strong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> Tiger =
List Serve &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><s=
trong><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> =
[Tigers] Gas tank vent hose <o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>I have a ongoing =
issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes me at least 5 =
minutes to completely fill my gas tanks.&nbsp; It takes the first 8-9 =
gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever.&nbsp; I must squeak in =
.1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas =
to settle in the tanks before adding =
more.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>The gas tank =
vent hose is in the correct location, I believe.&nbsp; No gas fumes in =
trunk.&nbsp; Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate.&nbsp; =
When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 =
gallons on the gauge.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Any ideas or =
suggestions as to why this might be happening and potential fix would be =
appreciated.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Regards<o:p></o:p=
></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif'>Joel =
Martin<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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