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Joel,
AH ha. Us CA types jumped on this wrongly due to our own miserable gas fil=
l problems!
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You had the problem that several (6-8?) gallons went in fine but then it sl=
owed down (Like us
recovery nozzle guys).
Yours sounds exactly like a "vent line" problem. Some kind of clog. Norma=
lly the problem
with that hose is it gets hard and cracks open allowing fumes into the inte=
rior.
You are probably filling the right side tank fine(6 gallons) but the left s=
ide needs the vent line
open so the pressure at the top is relieved to allow the gas to come up thr=
ough the crossover
tube behind the bumper.
Gary
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> On 09/21/2023 9:27 AM PDT Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
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> Thank you all for the responses. The rubber is about 5 years old and wi=
th no fumes in car or trunk, it should be good. I will check routing of ga=
s tank vent hose for any kinks and obstructions. As we live in NC, we have =
no vapor recovery sleeve gas nozzles. The nozzle key, I believe would not d=
o anything to help. If no kinks or obstructions, from others having the sa=
me issue, I will have to check my impatience at the door.
> =20
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> 1. Re: Gas tank vent hose (Mark Rense)
> 2. Re: Gas tank vent hose (Will Seay)
> 3. Re: Gas tank vent hose (twotigers@verizon.net)
> This issue has plagued us motorcyclists for years. There is a simple nozz=
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> Bugz
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> > Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve.=
I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA =
though. Never tried the upside down method.
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> I'm in VA and we don't have this problem. It seems to me that this issue=
came up some time ago and that someone recommended a collar/funnel device =
that you put into the filler. As I recall, the device was made to be used =
for motorcycles. If you have any biker friends maybe you could get a line =
on it.
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o the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.
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utox.team.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.net writes:
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> > > Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleev=
e. I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PIT=
A though. Never tried the upside down method.
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> > > > On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net =
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> > > You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pum=
ps).
> > > All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 =
or so.
> > > Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is neede=
d for the new pumps.
> > > So there is nothing you can do.
> > > When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rise=
s and the pump shuts
> > > off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground.=20
> > > I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat a=
nd just barely open the
> > > trigger, takes forever.
> > > Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better.=
I just tried this again
> > > and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.
> > > Gary
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> > > > On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <gregdawg89@hotmail.com mailt=
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> > > > ---------------------------------------------
> > > > From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces@a=
utox.team.net> on behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net m=
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> > > > I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that it tak=
es me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks. It takes the fir=
st 8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever. I must squeak in =
.1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to s=
ettle in the tanks before adding more.
> > > > =20
> > > > The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe. No g=
as fumes in trunk. Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate. W=
hen my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gal=
lons on the gauge.
> > > > =20
> > > > Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening and pote=
ntial fix would be appreciated.
> > > > =20
> > > > Regards
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> > > > Joel Martin
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> I had the same trouble as everybody else, and the only relief I could get=
was to break the recovery seal, also. This went on for decades. One day I =
smelled some gas fumes in the car. After eliminating the carb as the source=
I started looking behind the trunk panels. I found a crack in the vent tub=
e and another crack in the filler neck. Fixed both of those. Went to gas up=
, stuck the nozzle in, put the automatic trip on, and was shocked that the =
tanks filled completely. This was about a year ago. Every fill up since, ev=
en at different gas stations, has had the same result. Goes totally against=
logic and critical thinking, because previously the only way to get gas in=
was to break the seal. Now, with no way for air to enter the system, it fi=
lls up completely without any fuss. Go figure!
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> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of M Lafayette via=
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> Seems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into =
the tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.
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ox.team.net mailto:tigers@autox.team.net writes:
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> > Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve.=
I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA =
though. Never tried the upside down method.
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> > > On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net ma=
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> > You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pumps=
).
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> > All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or=
so.
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> > Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed =
for the new pumps.
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> > So there is nothing you can do.
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> > When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises =
and the pump shuts
> >=20
> > off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground.=20
> >=20
> > I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and=
just barely open the
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> > trigger, takes forever.
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> > Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better. =
I just tried this again
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> > and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.
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> > > From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net mailto:tigers-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net> on behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net mai=
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> > > I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes=
me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks. It takes the first=
8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever. I must squeak in .1=
-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to set=
tle in the tanks before adding more.
> > >=20
> > > =20
> > >=20
> > > The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe. No gas=
fumes in trunk. Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate. Whe=
n my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gallo=
ns on the gauge.
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ial fix would be appreciated.
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AH ha. Us CA types jumped on this wrongly due to our own miserable=
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You had the problem that several (6-8?) gallons went in fine but then it=
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Yours sounds exactly like a "vent line" problem. Some kind of clog=
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nterior.
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rs old and with no fumes in car or trunk, it should be good. I will c=
heck routing of gas tank vent hose for any kinks and obstructions. As we li=
ve in NC, we have no vapor recovery sleeve gas nozzles. The nozzle key, I b=
elieve would not do anything to help. If no kinks or obstructions, fr=
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I'm in VA and we don't have this problem. It seems to me th=
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lar/funnel device that you put into the filler. As I recall, the devi=
ce was made to be used for motorcycles. If you have any biker friends=
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A and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into t=
he filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside =
down method.</span>
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On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <<a href=3D=
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You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor reco=
very gas pumps).
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All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go =
more than 9 or so.
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Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system t=
hat is needed for the new pumps.
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When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the p=
ressure rises and the pump shuts
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I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't =
fully seat and just barely open the
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trigger, takes forever.
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Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it w=
orks better. I just tried this again
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and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last=
tried it.
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On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:gregdawg89@hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">gregdawg89@h=
otmail.com</a>> wrote:
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es@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tigers-bounces@autox.=
team.net</a>> on behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:=
tigers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tigers@autox.team=
.net</a>><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, September 19=
, 2023 1:53 PM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</strong> Tiger List Serve <=
<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener"=
>tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none"><strong>Subject:</strong> =
[Tigers] Gas tank vent hose</span>=20
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I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, i=
n that it takes me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks. =
; It takes the first 8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever.&=
nbsp; I must squeak in .1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 s=
econds for the gas to settle in the tanks before adding more.
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The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I b=
elieve. No gas fumes in trunk. Gas tank sending unit and gauge =
are pretty accurate. When my patience holds and I get the tanks full,=
gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on the gauge.
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Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happe=
ning and potential fix would be appreciated.
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Regards
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">I had the same tro=
uble as everybody else, and the only relief I could get was to break the re=
covery seal, also. This went on for decades. One day I smelled some gas fum=
es in the car. After eliminating the carb as the source I started looking b=
ehind the trunk panels. I found a crack in the vent tube and another crack =
in the filler neck. Fixed both of those. Went to gas up, stuck the nozzle i=
n, put the automatic trip on, and was shocked that the tanks filled complet=
ely. This was about a year ago. Every fill up since, even at different gas =
stations, has had the same result. Goes totally against logic and critical =
thinking, because previously the only way to get gas in was to break the se=
al. Now, with no way for air to enter the system, it fills up completely wi=
thout any fuss. Go figure!</p>=20
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d none none; border-color: #e1e1e1 currentcolor currentcolor; padding: 3pt =
0in 0in;">=20
<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><strong>From:</st=
rong> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> <strong>On Behalf Of </s=
trong>M Lafayette via Tigers<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, September=
20, 2023 2:31 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> jbsyv@yahoo.com; tigers@autox.tea=
m.net<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"> </p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><strong><span st=
yle=3D"font-size: 14.0pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;">Se=
ems like a few years back someone was advertising a device to put into the =
tank opening that supposedly solved this problem.</span></strong></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><br>In a message =
dated 9/20/2023 4:07:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a=
> writes:</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size: 10.5pt;">Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the va=
por recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that =
helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down method.</span></p>=
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">On Sep 20=
, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>> wro=
te:</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">You must n=
ot be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pumps).</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">All 13 gal=
lons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or so.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">Old cars d=
on't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed for the new pu=
mps.</p>=20
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s nothing you can do.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">When the n=
ozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises and the pump s=
huts</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">off, alway=
s spilling gas down the side and onto the ground. </p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">I have to =
hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and just barely o=
pen the</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">trigger, t=
akes forever.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">Some guys =
hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better. I just tr=
ied this again</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">and it did=
seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal">On 09/19/=
2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <<a href=3D"mailto:gregdawg89@hotmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">gregdawg89@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</p=
>=20
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le=3D"font-size: 12.0pt;">It does that with my Tiger too. </span><span styl=
e=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Segoe UI Emoji, sans-serif;">=F0=9F=99=
=81</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><strong><=
span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></strong> Tige=
rs <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" r=
el=3D"noopener">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Joel Mar=
tin via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong><span style=3D=
"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Sent:</span></strong> Tuesday, Septembe=
r 19, 2023 1:53 PM<br><strong><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-ser=
if;">To:</span></strong> Tiger List Serve <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@auto=
x.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>=
;<br><strong><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Subject:</sp=
an></strong> [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">I have a ongoing =
issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes me at least 5 minutes =
to completely fill my gas tanks. It takes the first 8-9 gallons just =
fine but the last 3-4 takes forever. I must squeak in .1-.2 gallons a=
t a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to settle in the ta=
nks before adding more.</span></p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;"> </span></p>=
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<p class=3D"ydpc5ef50ceyiv5784836498MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">The gas tank vent=
hose is in the correct location, I believe. No gas fumes in trunk.&n=
bsp; Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate. When my pat=
ience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on th=
e gauge.</span></p>=20
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tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;"> </span></p>=
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tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">Any ideas or sugg=
estions as to why this might be happening and potential fix would be apprec=
iated.</span></p>=20
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tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;"> </span></p>=
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tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">Regards</span></p=
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tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;"> </span></p>=
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tyle=3D"font-size: 12.0pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;">Joel Martin</span=
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