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To: Douglas Lyle <douglasalyle@yahoo.com>, Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>, Jim B <jbsyv@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose
From: GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2023 19:42:30 -0400 (EDT)
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Hi Doug, long time!
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That was probably like the credit card sized plastic gadget I bought.
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It had an oblong hole in the center.  You put that over the nozzle and push=
ed bellows back
with it, then you slid it to lock it, causing the bellows to be held all th=
e way back so it knew
you didn't want it to seal.
It sort of worked but wasn't any easier than holding the bellows back  or p=
ushing it into the car
slightly sideways to leave a gap on one side, that does work but you still =
have to pump really
slowly.
Gary Winblad
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> On 09/20/2023 1:12 PM PDT Douglas Lyle via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>=
 wrote:
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> =20
> =20
> A couple of years ago a guy was on here advertising an aluminum spacer th=
at you used to put between the tank and nozzle for pumping gas.    Don't re=
call who that was though but maybe someone else does.
> =20
> Doug Lyle
> =20
> On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 01:06:28 PM PDT, Jim B via Tigers <ti=
gers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I=
 angle the nozzle down into the filler pipe and that helps. Still a PITA th=
ough. Never tried the upside down method.
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> > On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD <garywinblad@comcast.net> wro=
te:
> >=20
> > =20
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> You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery gas pumps).
> All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more than 9 or s=
o.
> Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is needed fo=
r the new pumps.
> So there is nothing you can do.
> When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure rises an=
d the pump shuts
> off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground.=20
> I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully seat and j=
ust barely open the
> trigger, takes forever.
> Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works better.  I =
just tried this again
> and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried it.
> Gary
> =20
> =20
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> > On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver <gregdawg89@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > =20
> > =20
> > It does that with my Tiger too. =F0=9F=99=81
> > =20
> >=20
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Joel Martin v=
ia Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:53 PM
> > To: Tiger List Serve <tigers@autox.team.net>
> > Subject: [Tigers] Gas tank vent hose
> > =20
> > I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that it takes m=
e at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks.  It takes the first 8=
-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever.  I must squeak in .1-.=
2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds for the gas to settl=
e in the tanks before adding more.
> > =20
> > The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe.  No gas f=
umes in trunk.  Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pretty accurate.  When =
my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge shows 11.75 to 12 gallons=
 on the gauge.
> > =20
> > Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening and potentia=
l fix would be appreciated.
> > =20
> > Regards
> > =20
> > Joel Martin
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   Hi Doug, long time!
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   That was probably like the credit card sized plastic gadget I bought.
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   &nbsp;
  </div>=20
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   It had an oblong hole in the center.&nbsp; You put that over the nozzle =
and pushed bellows back
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   with it, then you slid it to lock it, causing the bellows to be held all=
 the way back so it knew
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   you didn't want it to seal.
  </div>=20
  <div class=3D"default-style">
   It sort of worked but wasn't any easier than holding the bellows back&nb=
sp; or pushing it into the car
  </div>=20
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   slightly sideways to leave a gap on one side, that does work but you sti=
ll have to pump really
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   slowly.
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   Gary Winblad
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   &nbsp;
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    On 09/20/2023 1:12 PM PDT Douglas Lyle via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team=
.net&gt; wrote:
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     &nbsp;
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     A couple of years ago a guy was on here advertising an aluminum spacer=
 that you used to put between the tank and nozzle for pumping gas.&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Don't recall who that was though but maybe someone else does.
    </div>=20
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     &nbsp;
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     Doug Lyle
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      On Wednesday, September 20, 2023 at 01:06:28 PM PDT, Jim B via Tigers=
 &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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        <span style=3D"font-size: 14px;">Like Gary, I=E2=80=99m in CA and I=
 hold back the vapor recovery sleeve. I angle the nozzle down into the fill=
er pipe and that helps. Still a PITA though. Never tried the upside down me=
thod.</span>
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            On Sep 20, 2023, at 8:07 AM, GARY WINBLAD &lt;garywinblad@comca=
st.net&gt; wrote:
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           You must not be in CA (or other state with the vapor recovery ga=
s pumps).
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           All 13 gallons take forever for me, so I never try to go more th=
an 9 or so.
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           Old cars don't have the on-board carbon canister system that is =
needed for the new pumps.
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           So there is nothing you can do.
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           When the nozzle is fully inserted and gas pumped in the pressure=
 rises and the pump shuts
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           off, always spilling gas down the side and onto the ground.&nbsp=
;
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           I have to hold the nozzle crooked so the bellows doesn't fully s=
eat and just barely open the
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           trigger, takes forever.
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           Some guys hold the nozzle upside down (vertical) and it works be=
tter.&nbsp; I just tried this again
          </div>=20
          <div class=3D"ydp226a3d62yiv9812624739default-style">
           and it did seem to work better than years ago when I last tried =
it.
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           Gary
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           &nbsp;
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           &nbsp;
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            On 09/19/2023 2:16 PM PDT Greg Oliver &lt;gregdawg89@hotmail.co=
m&gt; wrote:
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            It does that with my Tiger too. =F0=9F=99=81
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behalf of Joel Martin via Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none"><strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, September 19, 2023 1:53 PM<br clear=
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              I have a ongoing issue, more of testing my patience, in that =
it takes me at least 5 minutes to completely fill my gas tanks.&nbsp; It ta=
kes the first 8-9 gallons just fine but the last 3-4 takes forever.&nbsp; I=
 must squeak in .1-.2 gallons at a time, meaning I must wait 10-15 seconds =
for the gas to settle in the tanks before adding more.
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"ltr">
              &nbsp;
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"ltr">
              The gas tank vent hose is in the correct location, I believe.=
&nbsp; No gas fumes in trunk.&nbsp; Gas tank sending unit and gauge are pre=
tty accurate.&nbsp; When my patience holds and I get the tanks full, gauge =
shows 11.75 to 12 gallons on the gauge.
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"ltr">
              &nbsp;
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"ltr">
              Any ideas or suggestions as to why this might be happening an=
d potential fix would be appreciated.
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"ltr">
              &nbsp;
             </div>=20
             <div dir=3D"ltr">
              Regards
             </div>=20
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              &nbsp;
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             <div dir=3D"ltr">
              Joel Martin
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