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agreed about the brass. i ran my tiger for years with the brass rad with
no cooling issues and about 350hp / 7000rpm engine at the time. i
repaired the rad myself many times with solder but eventually it just seems
to be too old and fatigued and kept springing leaks in different places.
I put an aluminium rad in with the new 500hp engine and that lasted less
than 1000 miles before it sprung a leak in the middle and needed to be
trashed and replaced. i have about another 1000 miles on the new one - no
issues yet.
i don't think it needs much from the radiator as long as the coolant is
flowing ok. all the issues are about controlling airflow and after that
heat soak.
i never run much pressure in the cooling system as i don't use water.
On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:00=E2=80=AFAM Cars via Tigers <tigers@autox.team=
.net>
wrote:
> Fluidyne radiator and the fan came with the front runner system. Electric=
.
> Ran by the engine management system. However the most important part is
> that it is fitted and mounted into a custom FULL shroud
>
> However my first tiger 465 hp stroked 331 had a flex fan with a Ron Davis
> radiator. Everything else stock. I made a new shroud that was complete an=
d
> fit well. No problem with heat at all. LAT hood with functioning rear
> vents. The hood needs to be modified to make the vents functional.
>
> Just did one for a customer. Warmed up 289 stock radiator tanks but the
> rest modified by Tom Hall. Complete shroud. Ran as cool as can be.
>
> The key, in my opinion, is the shroud. Until that is addressed (and horn
> block offs). Everything else is guess and prayer
>
> Studies have show. That the thermal efficiency/weight advantages of
> aluminum are marginal. Basically brass is just as good. Aluminum is flash=
y.
> But you will struggle getting it repaired. They are pretty much disposabl=
e.
> In many instances the end tanks are epoxied on.
>
> Having said that, I have aluminum in every car but my my mini, model A an=
d
> mustang.
>
> My 2 cents
> Lynn
>
> Sent from my mobile device
>
> On Jul 20, 2023, at 5:11 PM, M Lafayette <coolvt@aol.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Lynn, Stock radiator? And, what fan?
>
> In a message dated 7/20/2023 5:37:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> cars@wt-inc.com writes:
>
>
> With a proper full shroud it would work well. Probably be enough with
> Horn block offs.
>
>
>
> I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air conditioning and neve=
r
> get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat. Can do it all day.
>
>
>
> Lynn
>
>
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *M Lafayette
> via Tigers
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM
> *To:* atwittsend@verizon.net; tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143
>
>
>
> *In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a
> "puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can't remember the
> number) as well as a "pusher" elect. fan. Makes sense since modern cars
> seems to use puller elctric's. Has anyone tried just one good elect.
> puller on a Tiger?*
>
> *Mark*
>
>
> In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> tigers@autox.team.net writes:
>
>
>
> As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan
> (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have
> success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan. =
I
> can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fa=
n
> but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan=
.
> That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it
> creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without
> smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that
> blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the
> yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems
> germane to the itself as others have not had the same issue with the
> recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed
> backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does the possibility exist
> that the fan design was for counter rotation? With serpentine belts in ca=
rs
> these days the rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier
> engines of the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to
> your problem. Enjoy the ride.
>
> On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:
>
> Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby st=
eps.
>
> After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the
> hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps. I
> have been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with no=
t
> much chance of traffic lights and traffic. I live in rural NC outside of
> Pinehurst.
>
> Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied from MS Word,
> so please ignore.
>
> 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black
> radiator overflow tank, missing from car.
>
> 2. Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Alexander
> Washick alw6464@gmail.com which are powder coated, missing from car.
>
> 1. Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert
> Straghan <rgstraghan@yahoo.ca> <rgstraghan@yahoo.ca> scuffed, primed
> and painted semi gloss black
> 2. Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen
> <dlutjen55@gmail.com> <dlutjen55@gmail.com> scuffed, primed and
> painted semi gloss black.
> 3. Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side
> tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.
> 4. Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted
> Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to=
line
> up.
> 5. Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=
=9D from
> radiator.
> 6. Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.
> 7. Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to
> radiator hoses.
> 8. New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit
> taller radiator.
> 9. New fan belt.
> 10. Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would
> not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracke=
t to
> fit my taller radiator. Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi =
gloss
> black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.
> 11. Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180. Could not find 170
> degree. If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree
> thermostat, please forward.
>
> So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a cu=
stom.
> Other changes could make is front air dam and block front cross member to
> bottom of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things play
> out this summer.
>
> Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the
> temperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic. Goal
> was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees
> whether driving or at idle.
>
> The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 after
> trial period of 6 months or so.
>
> The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS water
> pump and installed it and drove for a month or so. Install error on the
> Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem. The SS water
> pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall th=
e
> Flow Kooler with a new gasket.
>
> 1. Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the=
garage
> and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay. Not muc=
h
> help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go traf=
fic.
> 2. Built and installed a custom fan shroud. Remember I have an
> oversize Griffin radiator. This change resulted in idle temp. drop by
> maybe 2-3 degrees. Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.
> 3. I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line
> (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.
>
>
> 1. The rule of thumb they recommend: Electric fans of either the
> pusher or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover =
70% of
> the radiator surface. Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.
> 2. Small block V-8 engines recommendation is 3,000 CFM.
> 3. Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.
>
>
>
> *FLX-105391 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391>*
> Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm,
> Black, 20 amps,
> (Mfr. #: 239)
>
> 1. Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite whic=
h is
> adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on. Off is 10 degrees=
from on
> temp and is NOT adjustable.
>
>
>
> *FLX-121281 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281>*
> Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit
> (Mfr. #: 33095)
>
> e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in
> the upper radiator hose.
>
>
>
> *FLX-107078 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078>*
> Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT
> Ports, Includes One Plug, Each
> (Mfr. #: 32082)
>
> The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe into the adapter and
> keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify
> stock gauge was pretty accurate. The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle th=
e stock
> probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the stock
> gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe is accurate=
.
>
> f. Goal still not achieved
>
> 1. Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=
=9CYou typically
> only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just want
> extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller
> electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan=
will
> probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D The two smaller electric fan=
s I used did
> not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in conjuncti=
on
> with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particular car.
>
> Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gasket.
>
> 1. Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D s=
pacer.
> Finally success! Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regar=
dless of
> ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the mec=
hanical
> fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow disru=
ption.
> 2. The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees
> with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less. About 183=
in
> temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degr=
ee
> thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum =
for my
> car. The only down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when r=
unning
> and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the=
fan comes on..
> The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amps. This has=
not
> been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and not the
> generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue. Now I ca=
nnot
> hear the electric fan *at all* inside the car but outside, it is
> noisy when running. Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master =
series
> 40 mufflers. I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.
>
> So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower
> shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.
>
> Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying
> different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidit=
y
> of the area you reside.
>
> What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what woul=
d
> I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.
>
> Yahoo formatting again.
>
> Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.
>
> 1. Ensure radiator in good working order.
> 2. Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.
> 3. Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to
> install.
> 4. Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my
> case, custom made. Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud=
as
> well, which I have not done.
> 5. Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different
> mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.
> 6. Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case
> 7. New Griffin radiator. They sell a package for the Tiger with
> radiator, electric fan and shroud. Remember my radiator is a custom
> oversize radiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radi=
ator
> or package would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom
> Griffin radiator.
> 8. Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers
> 70% of your radiator surface *and *moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recomm=
ended
> for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order an=
d
> step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, y=
our
> call.
>
> So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower
> shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my go=
al
> of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving
> conditions. I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.
> Any questions, please ask.
>
> Regards
>
> Joel Martin
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT,
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> 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)
>
> Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photographs
> what I did for the full fans shroud.
>
>
>
> TigersUnited.com
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> tigersunited.com
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety of
> subjects. You might want to check it out.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown *<jbbrown1980@gmail.com>* wrote:
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> Thanks for all of the replies. I have a mostly stock engine (with
> Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator. I have a temperature
> gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200
> at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car. My problem
> right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature w=
as
> over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine of=
f
> it puked some water onto the floor. The temp gauge was showing around 25=
0
> degrees at that point.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn
> opening covers today. I will also look at blocking off the area below th=
e
> radiator. I have read all of the articles that people have referred to a=
nd
> I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds. So I was just looking
> for pusher fan recommendations at this point.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> Thanks,
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> Joe Brown
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <
> *tigers@autox.team.net*> wrote:
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock
> tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air come=
s
> through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the
> radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your ow=
n
> radiator. It works.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <*owain.lloyd@gmail.com*> wrote:
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> I think michael hit the nail on the head. first need to know is it
> overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. and spal
> is the go to brand. still need the horn holes and gap between cross
> member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly an=
d
> can be replaced with a more permanent solution later if you want. also
> need a fan shroud.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a
> small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley. that creates enough pull
> through the radiator at idle.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirel=
y
> and there are a variety of other things to check.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions (slowing
> down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular
> altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem. there are a bun=
ch
> of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but
> i've only suffered from it once.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tige=
r
> over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose. at lea=
st
> you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat or
> water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even how
> blocked the radiator is.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <*tigers@autox.t=
eam.net*>
> wrote:
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers for more that =
a decade
> (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and
> shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this issue. Just check
> STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first place to
> start is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all know that
> the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the
> wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines
> can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad thing=
.
> Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not reall=
y sure is
> does anything. My original guage can show 225-230 on a hot day (humidity
> plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design of the shou=
ld
> is an issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under the
> radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be done. However, =
on a hot low
> humidity day.. well good luck. JMO
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <*aballard@ix.netcom.com*>
> wrote:
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> The article includes several suggestions.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the
> bottom.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> A list member offered a piece he fabricated.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later
> this year.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> Allan Ballard
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> Mk1a Tiger
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>
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>
> <image0.jpeg><image1.jpeg>
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>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Have you looked at this cooling suggestions?
> *http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanVala=
nce1.asp*
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> It works great in Southern California heat.
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> My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas. I've read
> through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of t=
he
> suggested modifications. They listed two different pusher electric fans =
in
> the article but both of them are no longer available.
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> So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan? If so, what part number=
s?
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<div dir=3D"ltr">agreed about the brass.=C2=A0 i ran my tiger for years wit=
h the brass rad with no cooling issues and about 350hp / 7000rpm engine at =
the time.=C2=A0 =C2=A0i repaired the rad myself many times with solder but =
eventually it just seems to be too old and fatigued and kept springing leak=
s in different=C2=A0places.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I put an aluminium rad in with the =
new 500hp engine and that lasted less than 1000 miles before it sprung a le=
ak in the middle and needed to be trashed and replaced.=C2=A0 i have about =
another 1000 miles on the new one - no issues yet.<div><br></div><div>i don=
't think it needs much from the radiator as long as the coolant is flow=
ing ok.=C2=A0 all the issues are about controlling airflow and after that h=
eat soak.<br><div><br></div><div>i never run much pressure=C2=A0in the cool=
ing system as i don't use water.</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Jul 21, 2023 at 10:=
00=E2=80=AFAM Cars via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>=
tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,20=
4);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">
Fluidyne radiator and the fan came with the front runner system. Electric. =
Ran by the engine management system.=C2=A0 However the most important part =
is that it is fitted and mounted into a custom FULL shroud
<div><br>
</div>
<div>However my first tiger 465 hp stroked 331 had a flex fan with a Ron Da=
vis radiator. Everything else stock. I made a new shroud that was complete =
and fit well. No problem with heat at all. LAT hood with functioning rear v=
ents. The hood needs to be modified
to make the vents functional.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Just did one for a customer. Warmed up 289 stock radiator tanks but th=
e rest modified by Tom Hall. Complete shroud. Ran as cool as can be.=C2=A0<=
/div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The key, in my opinion, is the shroud. Until that is addressed (and ho=
rn block offs). Everything else is guess and prayer</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Studies have show. That the thermal efficiency/weight advantages of al=
uminum are marginal. Basically brass is just as good. Aluminum is flashy. B=
ut you will struggle getting it repaired. They are pretty much disposable. =
In many instances the end tanks
are epoxied on.=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Having said that, I have aluminum in every car but my my mini, model A=
and mustang.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My 2 cents</div>
<div>Lynn<br>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my mobile device</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 20, 2023, at 5:11 PM, M Lafayette <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:coolvt@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank">coolvt@aol.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div>
<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:14pt;color:r=
gb(0,0,0)">
<span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;font-weight:bold">Lynn, S=
tock radiator? And, what fan?<br>
</span></div>
<br>
In a message dated 7/20/2023 5:37:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:cars@wt-inc.com" target=3D"_blank">cars@wt-inc.com</a> writes:
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:2px solid=
blue">
<div id=3D"m_-2026923930358604809yiv2557846792">
<div>
<div>
<p>With a proper full shroud it would work well.=C2=A0 Probably be enough w=
ith Horn block offs.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>I am running a 347 stroker, 565 ish HP and full air conditioning and nev=
er get over 185-195 degrees with A/C in 100 degree heat.=C2=A0 Can do it al=
l day.</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<p>Lynn</p>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-=
top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p><strong>From:</strong> Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox=
.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>>
<strong>On Behalf Of </strong>M Lafayette via Tigers<br>
<strong>Sent:</strong> Thursday, July 20, 2023 12:13 PM<br>
<strong>To:</strong> <a href=3D"mailto:atwittsend@verizon.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">atwittsend@verizon.net</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">
tigers@autox.team.net</a><br>
<strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Tigers] Tigers Digest, Vol 16, Issue 143</p>
</div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
<div>
<div>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black=
">In speaking to a rep. from a fan company years ago, he mentioned that a &=
quot;puller" elect. fan would cool either 2 or 3 times (can't reme=
mber the
number) as well as a "pusher" elect. fan.=C2=A0 Makes sense sinc=
e modern cars seems to use puller elctric's.=C2=A0 Has anyone tried jus=
t one good elect. puller on a Tiger?</span></strong></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:14pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black=
">Mark</span></strong></p>
</div>
<p><br>
In a message dated 7/20/2023 1:58:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, <a href=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D=
"_blank">
tigers@autox.team.net</a> writes:</p>
<div>
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1.5pt solid blue;padding:0in 0in 0in 4pt;margin-left:3.75pt;marg=
in-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div id=3D"m_-2026923930358604809yiv2557846792">
<div>
<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lit=
e fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to =
have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fa=
n.=C2=A0 I can see where a pusher fan might impede
airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a puller fa=
n impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the "Flex" as=
pect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates a "wall of wind&quo=
t; and was causing the overheating issue. Without smoke
to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that blow=
over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the ya=
rd - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems germane =
to the itself as others have not had the
same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if =
the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does t=
he possibility exist that the fan design was for counter rotation? With ser=
pentine belts in cars these days the
rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of the sam=
e design. The good news is that you found a solution to your problem. Enjoy=
the ride.</p>
<div>
<p>On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:</p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Tiger R=
unning hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby steps.</spa=
n></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">After a=
bout a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the hood down, =
Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps.=C2=A0 I have been=
driving
the car during the last year only on back roads with not much chance of tr=
affic lights and traffic.=C2=A0 I live in rural NC outside of Pinehurst.</s=
pan></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copi=
ed from MS Word, so please ignore.=C2=A0
</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) glo=
ss black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2. Purchased and installed overflow tank str=
aps from
<span>Alexander Washick</span><span>=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:alw6464@gmail.c=
om" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">alw6464@gmail.co=
m</a> which are powder coated</span>,
missing from car.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from
</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">Robert=
Straghan</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:seri=
f">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:rgstraghan@yahoo.ca"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener no=
referrer" target=3D"_blank"><rgstraghan@yahoo.ca></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></span></li><li><span><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased a=
nd installed horn hole block plates from
</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">Don Lu=
tjen</span></span><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:dlutjen55@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow noopener noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank"><dlutjen55@gmail.com></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></span></li><li><span>=
<span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased =
and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank radiator from=
Griffin Radiator.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:"New serif"">Purchased and installed new Flow Koole=
r water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford dark blue to match engine replacing
SS water pump, pressed hub to line up.</span></span></li><li><span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Modified the mech=
anical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span><=
/span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New se=
rif"">Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan=
.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;New serif"">Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overf=
low to radiator hoses.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">New top radiator hose from local s=
ource, as SS hose would not fit taller radiator.</span></span></li><li><spa=
n><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">New fan =
belt.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family=
:"New serif"">Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud=
which would not fit as I did not want to cut a original
shroud top mounting bracket to fit my taller radiator.=C2=A0 Striped, prim=
ed and painted used shroud semi gloss black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.</sp=
an></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Ne=
w serif"">Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180.=C2=A0 Could not fi=
nd 170 degree.=C2=A0 If anyone has a part number and supplier
for a 170-degree thermostat, please forward.</span></span></li></ol>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">S=
o at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a custo=
m.=C2=A0 Other changes could make is front
air dam and block front cross member to bottom of radiator spacing but for=
now I am going to see how things play out this summer.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
=C2=A0Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the te=
mperature gauge increase while at idle
or in stop and go traffic.=C2=A0 Goal was to keep the temperature at ALL t=
imes between 180 and 190 degrees whether driving or at idle.</span></span><=
/p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
=C2=A0The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 aft=
er trial period of 6 months or so.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
=C2=A0The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS wate=
r pump and installed it and drove for
a month or so.=C2=A0 Install error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket tu=
rned out to be the problem.=C2=A0 The SS water pump actually raised idle te=
mps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new gaske=
t.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the garage =
and wired a manual off/on switch under
the dash with a relay.=C2=A0 Not much help or change in idle temperature w=
hile at stoplights or stop\go traffic.</span></span></li><li><span><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">Built and installe=
d a custom fan shroud.=C2=A0 Remember I have an oversize Griffin radiator.=
=C2=A0 This change resulted
in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3 degrees.=C2=A0 Goal not achieve at this po=
int but getting better.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">I then discussed issue with Flex-=
a-lite technical services hot line (multiple times) regarding their electri=
c
pusher fan line.</span></span></li></ol>
<ol start=3D"3" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
The rule of thumb they recommend:=C2=A0 Electric fans of either the pusher =
or puller type should be that the electric
fan should cover 70% of the radiator surface.=C2=A0 Mine came out to 69.5%=
coverage.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-f=
amily:"New serif"">Small block V-8 engines recommendation is=C2=
=A0 3,000 CFM.</span></span></li><li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:"New serif"">Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met the=
se specifications.</span></span></li></ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:369.75pt" border=3D"0" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0=
" cellpadding=3D"0">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td style=3D"width:2.5pt;padding:0in" width=3D"3">
<p>=C2=A0</p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:367.25pt;padding:0in" valign=3D"top" width=3D"490">
<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"=
><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391"; rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black">FLX-1053=
91</span></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:black"><br>
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black,=
20 amps,=C2=A0
<br>
(Mfr. #: 239) </span></p>
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<ol start=3D"4" type=3D"a">
<li><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which is adj=
ustable so you can set when the fan comes
on.=C2=A0 Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is NOT adjustable.</span></sp=
an></li></ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:6.25in" border=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0">
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<p>=C2=A0</p>
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<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"=
><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281"; rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black">FLX-1212=
81</span></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:black"><br>
Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></p>
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<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 e. Also purcha=
sed temperature probe adapter and installed in the upper radiator hose.</sp=
an></span></p>
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<table style=3D"width:6.25in" border=3D"0" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" =
cellpadding=3D"0">
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<p>=C2=A0</p>
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<p><strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black"=
><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078"; rel=3D"nofollow =
noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black">FLX-1070=
78</span></a></span></strong><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-=
serif;color:black"><br>
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT P=
orts, Includes One Plug, Each
<br>
(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></p>
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<p style=3D"margin-left:0.75in"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:"New serif"">The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 into the adapter and keep my
mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify stock gaug=
e was pretty accurate.=C2=A0 The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle the stock=
probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the stock g=
auge, so manual temp gauge is still in place
which I believe is accurate.</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0f.=C2=A0 Goal still not achieved</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<li style=3D"color:black"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&=
quot;New serif";color:windowtext">Flex - a - Lite then offered the fol=
lowing advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=9C</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:12p=
t;font-family:serif">You
typically only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and jus=
t want extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much small=
er electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan w=
ill probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D=C2=A0
The two smaller electric fans I used did not work in my case, so advice ab=
out smaller electric fan in conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did =
not work in my particular car.</span></li></ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=C2=A0<=
span style=3D"color:black">Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler wate=
r pump with new gasket.</span></span></p>
<ol start=3D"5" type=3D"1">
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"a">
<li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:b=
lack">Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D spa=
cer.=C2=A0 Finally success!=C2=A0 Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL tim=
es regardless
of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the mechani=
cal fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow disruptio=
n.</span></li><li><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif=
";color:black">=C2=A0The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs arou=
nd 176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less.=C2=
=A0 About 183 in temperatures
above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180 degree thermostat at som=
e point, 170 if I could find one might be optimum for my car.=C2=A0 The onl=
y down side for me is the electric fan is noisy when running and volts on v=
olt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when
the fan comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 am=
ps. This has not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator an=
d not the generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue.=C2=A0 N=
ow I cannot hear the electric fan
<strong>at all</strong> inside the car but outside, it is noisy when runnin=
g.=C2=A0 Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow Master series 40 muffl=
ers.=C2=A0 I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span></li></ol>
</ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions excep=
t lower shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep try=
ing different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humid=
ity
of the area you reside.</span></p>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and w=
hat would I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work invol=
ved.</span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:bl=
ack">Yahoo formatting again.
</span></p>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:bl=
ack">Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span></p>
</div>
<ol start=3D"1" type=3D"1">
<li style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"N=
ew serif"">Ensure radiator in good working order.</span></li><li style=
=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif&=
quot;">Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></li><li style=3D"=
color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"=
;">Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to install.=
</span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-fa=
mily:"New serif"">Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees =
improvement in my case, custom made.=C2=A0 Possible making of the lower por=
tion of the shroud
as well, which I have not done.</span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:wind=
owtext">Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different mecha=
nical
fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.</span></span></li><li styl=
e=3D"color:black"><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New=
serif";color:windowtext">Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680,
</span></span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:serif">2-3 degrees =
improvement in my case</span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">Ne=
w Griffin radiator.=C2=A0 They sell a package for the Tiger with radiator,
electric fan and shroud.=C2=A0 Remember my radiator is a custom oversize r=
adiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package=
would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom Griffin radiat=
or.</span></span></li><li style=3D"color:black"><span><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:windowtext">Remove mechani=
cal fan and install electric pusher fan that covers
70% of your radiator surface </span></span><strong><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;color:windowtext">and
</span></strong><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New s=
erif";color:windowtext">moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for s=
mall block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order and step 9 w=
ill
not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span>=
</span></li></ol>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif";color:bl=
ack">=C2=A0So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions excep=
t lower shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met
my goal of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all drivi=
ng conditions.=C2=A0 I hope my trials and findings will help you moving for=
ward.=C2=A0 Any questions, please ask.</span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">=
=C2=A0Regards</span></span></p>
<p><span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"New serif"">J=
oel Martin</span></span></p>
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=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">BTW,
Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety of subjects=
. You might want to check it out.=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
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d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <u><span style=3D"color:blue"><jbb=
rown1980@gmail.com></span></u> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Thanks
for all of the replies.=C2=A0 I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock=
intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I have a temperature gauge mo=
unted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200 at idle b=
ut I haven't had any problems while driving
the car.=C2=A0 My problem right now is that I took the car out one afterno=
on when the temperature was over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the gar=
age and shut the engine off it puked some water onto the floor.=C2=A0 The t=
emp gauge was showing around 250 degrees at
that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span></a></span></p>
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
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"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn ope=
ning covers today.=C2=A0 I will also look at blocking off the area below th=
e radiator.=C2=A0 I have read all of the articles that people have referred=
to and I believe I have an airflow problem
at low speeds.=C2=A0 So I was just looking for pusher fan recommendations =
at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
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</div>
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<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">The
best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.</span></a></s=
pan></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Thanks,</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Joe
Brown</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <<u><span=
style=3D"color:blue">tigers@autox.team.net</span></u>> wrote:</span></a=
></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock tiger,=
fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air comes throug=
h the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the radiato=
r again. So essentially you're just
recycling hot air from your own radiator.=C2=A0 It works.=C2=A0</span></a>=
</span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <<u><span style=3D"color:blue">ow=
ain.lloyd@gmail.com</span></u>> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
think michael hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 first need to know is it ove=
rheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">a
pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped.=C2=A0 and spa=
l is the go to brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need the horn holes and gap between=
cross member and rad blocked.=C2=A0 cardboard and zip ties does the trick =
quickly and can be replaced with a more permanent=C2=A0solution
later if you want.=C2=A0 also need a fan shroud. </span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">personally
i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a small 13&qu=
ot; flex fan on the water pump pulley.=C2=A0 that creates enough pull throu=
gh the radiator at idle.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">if
its=C2=A0overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entire=
ly and there are a variety=C2=A0of other things to check.</span></a></span>=
</p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">in
my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions=C2=A0(slowin=
g down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular a=
ltitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem.=C2=A0 there are a b=
unch of things i could do there, most importantly
a carb heat shield, but i've=C2=A0only suffered from it once.</span></=
a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">one
thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tiger=
over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose.=C2=A0 at=
least you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermost=
at or water pump issues and if you're used
to how it should look, even how blocked the radiator is.</span></a></span>=
</p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShrou=
d.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=
=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <<u><span style=
=3D"color:blue">tigers@autox.team.net</span></u>> wrote:</span></a></spa=
n></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;b=
order-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4=
.8pt;margin-right:0in">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:18pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a =
href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp=
" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"col=
or:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I=E2=80=99ve
been reading=C2=A0about cooling issues with tigers for more that a decade =
(much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and sh=
rouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on=C2=A0this issue. Just check=
STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads!
I think the first place to start is=C2=A0knowing what the actual=C2=A0engi=
ne team really is. We all know that the original temp guage can be off. The=
other thing is: as a dyed in the wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal=
engine temp. But, Ford engines can get to
195-200 degrees easily and that is not=C2=A0necessarily a bad thing. Yes, =
I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not really sure =
is does=C2=A0anything. My=C2=A0original guage can show 225-230 on =C2=A0a h=
ot day (humidity plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out
fluid. The design of the should is an=C2=A0issue. It lets hot air from the=
engine compartment to get under the radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=
=E2=80=99 that can be=C2=A0done. However, on a hot low humidity day.. well =
good luck. JMO</span>
</a></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <<u><span style=3D"color:blue">=
aballard@ix.netcom.com</span></u>> wrote:</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><=
a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.a=
sp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"c=
olor:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">The
article includes several suggestions.</span> </a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">One
of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the bott=
om.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">A
list member offered a piece he fabricated.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">I
obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later thi=
s year.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Even
a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Allan
Ballard</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Mk1a
Tiger</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/P=
aulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none"><=
;image0.jpeg><image1.jpeg></span></a></span></p>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Sent
from my iPhone</span></a></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud=
.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" target=3D"_blank"><span style=3D=
"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">=C2=A0</span></a></span></p>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt">
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:sa=
ns-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/P=
aulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">On
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"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">Have
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ce1.asp</span></u>
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"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">It
works great in Southern California heat.</span></a></span></p>
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"color:rgb(38,40,42);text-decoration:none">My
Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas.=C2=A0 I'=
;ve read through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make so=
me of the suggested modifications.=C2=A0 They listed two different pusher e=
lectric fans in the article but both of them are no
longer available. </span></a></span></p>
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s?</span></a></span></p>
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