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Re: [Tigers] The answer to a question that no one asked...

To: Jim B <jbsyv@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] The answer to a question that no one asked...
From: Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 16:26:18 -0700
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My take.  Agree 100% that all cars are silent now except for their =
tires.  However, I think gas cars do make a little bit more noise when =
starting to pull away from a stop - like in a parking space.  So that =
EVs starting to move can be a surprise.

Toyota has been pushing lately that the 100% EV concept that California =
is pushing is not realistic and that hybrids will be around for a long =
time.  I agree.  We were going to get a Tesla, but now think we=E2=80=99ll=
 probably get a plug in hybrid that has a 35+ mile range.  That will be =
basically 100% EV for us most months.

The other thing I don=E2=80=99t possibly fathom is how the vast majority =
of Los Angeles residents who live in the miles and miles of small =
apartments buildings will charge.  Those buildings don=E2=80=99t have =
parking spaces for all tenants.  Who is going to wire up those =
apartments? =20



> On Oct 2, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> =
wrote:
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> Okay, here is my take. My first impression is this is as stupid as =
stupid gets. I did hear somewhere that =E2=80=9Csome=E2=80=9D people are =
worried about deaf and/or blind folks not being able to hear an =
approaching EV. =46rom experience, I can tell you that NO ONE even hears =
my F150. Many people step into traffic around here without even looking. =
We will probably replace my wife=E2=80=99s compact SUV with an EV in the =
near future. We already have a solar array designed to make up for the =
juice required and I plan to install a level 2 charger in the garage. We =
almost never travel far enough in that car to have to look for a =
charging station. As for us California guys, speaking for myself, I =
think I=E2=80=99ll be long gone before there is absolutely no petrol to =
be had. Somewhere down the line, it will probably get very expensive to =
buy (as if it is not bad already) but, I have to actually make a point =
of driving the Tiger and my big block Ford just to keep em running =
right. Car shows and Sunday drives are the norm.=20
> With all that said; I kinda like the George Jetson sound idea! I can =
see EV drivers gettin creative with sound effects. That could be a hoot. =
AND, I have to admit that I clothes pinned playing cards into the spokes =
of my bicycle as a kid!=20
> JMHO
> Cheers
> Jim B
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>> On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Jim Sencindiver <jd.sencindiver@gmail.com =
>>=20
>> Just saw (this weekend) the Borla system get installed on a Mustang =
MachE on an episode of All Girls Garage (Motor Trend TV).
>>=20
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 9:39 PM Stu <sabre2tgr@gmail.com =
>> Just what every EV owner needs...
>>=20
>> Borla Active Performance Sound for Electric Vehicles =
<https://www.borla.com/products/active-performance-sound-for-electric-vehi=
cles/>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">My =
take. &nbsp;Agree 100% that all cars are silent now except for their =
tires. &nbsp;However, I think gas cars do make a little bit more noise =
when starting to pull away from a stop - like in a parking space. =
&nbsp;So that EVs starting to move can be a surprise.<div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Toyota has been pushing lately that the =
100% EV concept that California is pushing is not realistic and that =
hybrids will be around for a long time. &nbsp;I agree. &nbsp;We were =
going to get a Tesla, but now think we=E2=80=99ll probably get a plug in =
hybrid that has a 35+ mile range. &nbsp;That will be basically 100% EV =
for us most months.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">The other thing I don=E2=80=99t possibly fathom is how the =
vast majority of Los Angeles residents who live in the miles and miles =
of small apartments buildings will charge. &nbsp;Those buildings don=E2=80=
=99t have parking spaces for all tenants. &nbsp;Who is going to wire up =
those apartments? &nbsp;</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct 2, 2022, at 10:00 PM, Jim B via Tigers =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><meta =
http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: =
space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Okay, here is my take. My first =
impression is this is as stupid as stupid gets. I =
did&nbsp;hear&nbsp;somewhere that&nbsp;=E2=80=9Csome=E2=80=9D people are =
worried about deaf and/or blind folks not being able to hear an =
approaching EV. =46rom experience, I can tell you that NO ONE even hears =
my F150. Many people step into traffic around here without even looking. =
We will probably replace my wife=E2=80=99s compact SUV with an EV in the =
near future. We already have a solar array&nbsp;designed to make up for =
the juice required and I plan to install a level 2 charger in the =
garage. We almost never travel far enough in that car to have to look =
for a charging station. As for us California guys, speaking for myself, =
I think I=E2=80=99ll be long gone&nbsp;before there is absolutely no =
petrol to be had. Somewhere down the line, it will probably get very =
expensive to buy (as if it is not bad already) but, I have to actually =
make a point of driving the Tiger and my big block Ford just to keep em =
running right. Car shows and Sunday drives are the =
norm.&nbsp;</span><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D"">With all that said; I&nbsp;kinda like the George Jetson sound =
idea! I can see EV drivers gettin creative with sound effects. That =
could be a hoot. AND, I have to admit that I&nbsp;clothes =
pinned&nbsp;playing cards into the spokes of my bicycle as a =
kid!&nbsp;</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" =
class=3D"">JMHO</span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
14px;" class=3D"">Cheers</span></div><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Jim B<br class=3D""></span><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Oct 2, 2022, at 8:14 PM, Jim Sencindiver &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:jd.sencindiver@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">jd.sencindiver@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Just saw (this weekend) the Borla system get installed on a =
Mustang MachE on an episode of All Girls Garage (Motor Trend =
TV).</div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Oct 2, 2022, 9:39 PM Stu &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:sabre2tgr@gmail.com"; class=3D"">sabre2tgr@gmail.com</a>&gt;=
 wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc =
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small">Just =
what every&nbsp;EV owner&nbsp;needs...</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-size:small"><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"><a =
href=3D"https://www.borla.com/products/active-performance-sound-for-electr=
ic-vehicles/" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer" class=3D"">Borla =
Active Performance Sound for Electric Vehicles</a><br =
class=3D""></div></div></div>
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