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Ron,
Yeah, a little extra protection can=E2=80=99t hurt.
I don=E2=80=99t really see the need but then I never=20
expected my whole clutch arm to fall out
either but that DID happen.
Gary
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 28, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> Gary
> My point here is that if you drop the clutch rod you=E2=80=
=99re not going anywhere.
> =20
> Your spring with the stock clip is excellent but what if something unexpec=
ted happens.
> Rust happens, road debris happens, cylinder rubber seals degrade happens, m=
any things can happen out on the road.
> =20
> Call it safety wire or tether wire, I want to make sure not matter what th=
e clutch rod is not lost and I have to be towed.
> Safety wire is usually stainless steel so it should not rust and it is jus=
t there with no tension or flexing, its just along for the ride until its ne=
eded.
> =20
> Ron Fraser
> =20
> =20
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Gary
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 10:10 AM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue
> =20
> I've never heard of safety wire but if you have the stock clip to hold the=
rod to the clutch arm,
> and you add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a way f=
or it to fall out.
> And you will get max stroke and save the throwout bearing.
> Gary
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> On 5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
> Jerry
> I always recommend that everyone should put safety wire on=
the clutch rod =E2=80=93 just in case the rod gets into a position it could=
fall.
> =20
> If the clutch rod falls out your basically a tow it away car.
> I think I have a safety wire on the clutch rod to the clutch fork; this sh=
ould prevent the rod from ever totally leaving the car.
> =20
> Ron Fraser
> =20
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Jerry Christophe=
rson
> Sent: Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM
> To: Tiger Autox <TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET>
> Subject: [Tigers] Clutch issue
> =20
> Thanks for the ideas from all of you. The issue of a longer push rod (whi=
ch I have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up against the throw out bear=
ing just so far. Right now I=E2=80=99m touching the bearing (which I don=E2=
=80=99t want of course). Today I received my order from S.S. (new kits for t=
he master and slave) and it seems to have improved the issue, I=E2=80=99ll t=
ry driving the car tomorrow to see if it=E2=80=99s livable. I let someone ta=
lk me into a RAM clutch, should have gone with a Centerforce maybe? Rick f=
rom S. S. said people have had good luck with them. I=E2=80=99m now of the=
feeling if you aren=E2=80=99t racing, a standard Mustang clutch is more tha=
n enough for the Tiger. The idea of a higher volume (larger dia.) master al=
so suggested by Rick, is that it will make the peddle force higher. Another=
issue is how far can one allow the slave piston to travel without coming o=
ut of the cylinder (mine does not have the retaining clip like it shoes in t=
he manual). Mine has a max movement of around 1.350, The piston could come o=
ut another .300 ,but that would have the front of the piston .300 past the e=
nd of the cylinder, probably not a good thing!
> Thanks again for your responses! Jerry
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Ron,<div>Yeah, a little extra protection ca=
n=E2=80=99t hurt.</div><div>I don=E2=80=99t really see the need but then I n=
ever </div><div>expected my whole clutch arm to fall out</div><div>eith=
er but that DID happen.</div><div>Gary</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Se=
nt from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May=
28, 2021, at 8:49 AM, Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com> wrote:<br><br=
></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<met=
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oNormal">Gary<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> &=
nbsp; My point h=
ere is that if you drop the clutch rod you=E2=80=99re not going anywhere.<o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">Your spring with the stock clip is excellent but what if something unexpe=
cted happens.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Rust happens, road debris=
happens, cylinder rubber seals degrade happens, many things can happen out o=
n the road.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3D"MsoNormal">Call it safety wire or tether wire, I want to make sure not=
matter what the clutch rod is not lost and I have to be towed.<o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Safety wire is usually stainless steel so it should=
not rust and it is just there with no tension or flexing, its just along fo=
r the ride until its needed.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> =
;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div>=
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0=
in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.=
team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Gary<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2021 1=
0:10 AM<br><b>To:</b> tigers@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] C=
lutch issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:=
p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">I've never heard=
of safety wire but if you have the stock clip to hold the rod to the clutch=
arm,<br>and you add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a=
way for it to fall out.<br>And you will get max stroke and save the throwou=
t bearing.<br>Gary<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 5/28=
/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"ma=
rgin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jerry<o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> &n=
bsp; I always recommend that everyone sh=
ould put safety wire on the clutch rod =E2=80=93 just in case the rod gets i=
nto a position it could fall.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">If the clutch rod falls out your basicall=
y a tow it away car.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I think I have a s=
afety wire on the clutch rod to the clutch fork; this should prevent the rod=
from ever totally leaving the car. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&n=
bsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:s=
olid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:=
</b> Tigers <a href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";><tigers-boun=
ces@autox.team.net></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Christopherson<br><b>Se=
nt:</b> Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tiger Autox <a href=3D"m=
ailto:TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET"><TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET></a><br><b>Subject=
:</b> [Tigers] Clutch issue<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks for the ideas from all of y=
ou. The issue of a longer push rod (which I have, 4.5 inches) is that y=
ou can only go up against the throw out bearing just so far. Right now=
I=E2=80=99m touching the bearing (which I don=E2=80=99t want of course).&nb=
sp; Today I received my order from S.S. (new kits for the master and slave) a=
nd it seems to have improved the issue, I=E2=80=99ll try driving the car tom=
orrow to see if it=E2=80=99s livable. I let someone talk me into a RAM=
clutch, should have gone with a Centerforce maybe? Rick from S. S. sa=
id people have had good luck with them. I=E2=80=99m now of the f=
eeling if you aren=E2=80=99t racing, a standard Mustang clutch is more than e=
nough for the Tiger. The idea of a higher volume (larger dia.) master a=
lso suggested by Rick, is that it will make the peddle force higher. A=
nother issue is how far can one allow the slave piston to travel witho=
ut coming out of the cylinder (mine does not have the retaining clip like it=
shoes in the manual). Mine has a max movement of around 1.350, The pi=
ston could come out another .300 ,but that would have the front of the pisto=
n .300 past the end of the cylinder, probably not a good thing!</span><o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:14.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial",sans-serif">Thanks again for your responses! Jerry</=
span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_____=
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