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Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue

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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Clutch issue
From: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 07:10:01 -0700
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I've never heard of safety wire but if you have the stock clip to hold 
the rod to the clutch arm,
and you add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a way 
for it to fall out.
And you will get max stroke and save the throwout bearing.
Gary


On 5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:
>
> Jerry
>
>                 I always recommend that everyone should put safety 
> wire on the clutch rod ? just in case the rod gets into a position it 
> could fall.
>
> If the clutch rod falls out your basically a tow it away car.
>
> I think I have a safety wire on the clutch rod to the clutch fork; 
> this should prevent the rod from ever totally leaving the car.
>
> Ron Fraser
>
> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jerry 
> Christopherson
> *Sent:* Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM
> *To:* Tiger Autox <TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET>
> *Subject:* [Tigers] Clutch issue
>
> Thanks for the ideas from all of you.  The issue of a longer push rod 
> (which I have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up against the 
> throw out bearing just so far.  Right now I?m touching the bearing 
> (which I don?t want of course).  Today I received my order from S.S. 
> (new kits for the master and slave) and it seems to have improved the 
> issue, I?ll try driving the car tomorrow to see if it?s livable. I let 
> someone talk me into a  RAM clutch, should have gone with a 
> Centerforce maybe?  Rick from S. S. said people have had good luck 
> with them.   I?m now of the feeling if you aren?t racing, a standard 
> Mustang clutch is more than enough for the Tiger.  The idea of a 
> higher volume (larger dia.) master also suggested by Rick, is that it 
> will make the peddle force higher.  Another issue is how far can one 
> allow the slave  piston to travel without coming out of the cylinder 
> (mine does not have the retaining clip like it shoes in the manual).  
> Mine has a max movement of around 1.350, The piston could come out 
> another .300 ,but that would have the front of the piston .300 past 
> the end of the cylinder, probably not a good thing!
>
> Thanks again for your responses!  Jerry
>
>
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    I've never heard of safety wire but if you have the stock clip to
    hold the rod to the clutch arm,<br>
    and you add a return spring to the clutch arm, there isn't much of a
    way for it to fall out.<br>
    And you will get max stroke and save the throwout bearing.<br>
    Gary<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/28/2021 5:19 AM, Ron Fraser wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal">Jerry<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">                I always recommend that
          everyone should put safety wire on the clutch rod ? just in
          case the rod gets into a position it could fall.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">If the clutch rod falls out your basically
          a tow it away car.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">I think I have a safety wire on the clutch
          rod to the clutch fork; this should prevent the rod from ever
          totally leaving the car. <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Ron Fraser<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tigers
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a>
 <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry
              Christopherson<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Friday, May 28, 2021 12:03 AM<br>
              <b>To:</b> Tiger Autox <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
href="mailto:TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET";>&lt;TIGERS@AUTOX.TEAM.NET&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Clutch issue<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks
            for the ideas from all of you.  The issue of a longer push
            rod (which I have, 4.5 inches) is that you can only go up
            against the throw out bearing just so far.  Right now I?m
            touching the bearing (which I don?t want of course).  Today
            I received my order from S.S. (new kits for the master and
            slave) and it seems to have improved the issue, I?ll try
            driving the car tomorrow to see if it?s livable. I let
            someone talk me into a  RAM clutch, should have gone with a
            Centerforce maybe?  Rick from S. S. said people have had
            good luck with them.   I?m now of the feeling if you aren?t
            racing, a standard Mustang clutch is more than enough for
            the Tiger.  The idea of a higher volume (larger dia.) master
            also suggested by Rick, is that it will make the peddle
            force higher.  Another issue is how far can one allow the
            slave  piston to travel without coming out of the cylinder
            (mine does not have the retaining clip like it shoes in the
            manual).  Mine has a max movement of around 1.350, The
            piston could come out another .300 ,but that would have the
            front of the piston .300 past the end of the cylinder,
            probably not a good thing!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            
style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif">Thanks
            again for your responses!  Jerry<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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