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Re: TRF Catalog!!

To: Jeff McNeal <jmcneal@ohms.com>
Subject: Re: TRF Catalog!!
From: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:02:08 -0700
Jeff,
Ted had garnered quite a reputation for his performance parts.  Toward that 
end, I typically think of him when I am ordering mechanical
parts for my race car.  His prices are no worse than anyone else's and in many 
cases much better.  He does give a lot of advice and
offers some pretty innovative products.

So, Yes indeed, let's all get behind Ted and give him a fair piece of our 
mindshare when we get ready to order parts for out Spitfires.

Joe 

Jeff McNeal wrote:
> 
> In the midst of all this hullabaloo yesterday, I received an impassioned
> e-mail from Ted Schumacher.  The same Ted Schumacher who has generated some
> very nice PR and goodwill for himself recently by offering Spitfire Squadron
> members 10% off.
> 
> In my message yesterday, I mentioned disappointment that TRF seems to give
> Spitfires the short shrift in their sale flyers, but would probably go ahead
> and order a tune up kit from them anyway since I know that they're trying to
> stay afloat.  Ted wanted to know why I wouldn't think of him for this stuff,
> when he has offered expert advice, great customer service and hard to find
> parts to list members.
> 
> A fair question indeed, wouldn't you say?  I thought so.
> 
> With all this bantering back and forth, I've seen several vendors
> mentioned -- but not Ted Schumacher -- a man who has intimately been
> connected with Triumphs for over 30 years.  This must frustrate him to no
> end.
> 
> I know a little bit about marketing, so I wrote back and offered my theories
> as to why he's probably not receiving the market share he deserves.
> 
> It's all about TOMA -- top of mind awareness.  True, Ted is a regular force
> on the lists and has aggresively pursued business via the list in true (and
> commendable) guerrilla marketing fashion.  As far as I'm concerned, Ted has
> handily outperformed his competitors in this regard.  He's helpful (not
> pushy in the least), knowledgable and courteous -- and has a great phone
> presence.  My only real complaint about Ted is that he puts his replies at
> the very bottom of the message in e-mails.  I don't want to read through all
> the junk I just wrote, he responded to and I wrote back with just to see
> what his latest reply is.  But granted, this is a VERY small complaint that
> has nothing to do with Ted's business acumen.
> 
> So why is it that Ted Schumacher isn't thought of as a first choice by list
> members more often?
> 
> Although Ted has a lot of great things going for him (I have purchased from
> him and will do so again), as far as I can tell, he has no catalog or
> printed price sheet whatsoever.  None that I've received or heard of, at
> least.  Meanwhile, his competition is literally IN MY HOME thanks to their
> catalogs -- within easy reach for reference -- any time I have a question
> about a part.  Chances are, if it's what I'm looking for, I'll simply dial
> the most convenient number (usually printed within that particular catalog)
> and order the part.  This is another reason why TRF is seldom my first
> choice, either, since they have no early Spitfire catalog.  But in this
> case, their sale flyer caught my eye and got my attention -- so they're
> still doing SOMETHING right.
> 
> While I see Ted's name on my computer screen every so often, I see his
> competitor's names via their catalogs I have lying around literally dozens
> of times every day -- whether I'm on the computer or not.  I also receive
> letters and/or sale flyers from them in the mail.  I've yet to receive any
> such notice from Ted.  I know that Ted has come up with some unusual, hard
> to find items like the radio that I purchased from him -- but I have no idea
> whether he sells new parts that I might need or not!
> 
> In a nutshell, I told Ted that I believe he should follow up every sale with
> a thank you note at the very least, and better still, a quarterly newsletter
> that lists certain items of interest for sale.
> 
> I also gave Ted the opportunity to snatch that sale away from TRF by asking
> him if he had the tune-up components and for how much?
> 
> So far, I've not heard back from him.
> 
> Guess who's probably going to get the sale?
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jeff in San Diego
> 
> '67 RHD Spitfire Mk3 aka "Mrs. Jones"
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> http://www.ohms.com/spitfire/spitfire.shtml
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> 
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> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: BILL McDEVITT <wmmk1@informatics.net>
> To: Joe Curry <spitlist@gte.net>
> Cc: Spifires Autox Team <spitfires@autox.team.net>; <SpitfiresRule@aol.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2000 5:01 PM
> Subject: Re: TRF Catalog!!
> 
> >
> > C'mon Joe, I wasn't born Yesterday and you are trying to
> > tell me that the two places you mention will have any part
> > I should need all the time?? Yea, sure!! In addition don't
> > knock the TRF accent, as its the same as mine!! Was born
> > and raised in that area, but left before TRF. You may shop
> > where ever you desire, but I shop for QUALITY!! I don't have
> > to repair mine and replace the same parts every three
> > months!! Also might be able to help you with those missing
> > license plates??  Bill
> >
> > > Bill,
> > > When you run into that magic part (and sooner or later you will) that
> TRF
> > puts on their backorder list for an eternity, give Nigel a
> > > call and either he will have it or British Parts Northwest will and at a
> > substantial savings!
> > >
> > > Been there, done that!
> > >
> > > There was a time that TRF was the preferred option.  Not any more,
> > particularly on Spitfires.  They have let their leadership position
> > > dwindle so badly that the "Johnny Come Lately's" have taken up the
> slack.
> > Besides all that, Nigel speaks with a "proper" accent!
> > >
> > > Joe
> > >
> > > BILL McDEVITT wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Mitch, Never heard of them until recently. Must be Johnny
> > > > come lately people!! I've been buying Spitfire parts since
> > > > 1982 and have no reason to shop anywhere other than the
> > > > TRF!!  Thanks, Bill.
> > > >
> > > > > Bill, Spitbits has an "early Spit catalog. I've had nothing but good
> > > > service from Nigel and his crew.
> > > > >  Mitch.
> >

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