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I think cast iron can be brazed much more easily than welded. I had it
done once on an old car=E2=80=99s exhaust manifold for which a replacement =
was
either unavailable or prohibitively expensive. Worked fine for me.
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:33 AM Ian McFetridge <shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org>
wrote:
> It might also be helpful to have a CO detector rather than just an alarm,
> like the below that allows ppm of CO to be monitored for trends, changes =
as
> it heats and expands, etc. It's a shame the AirThings detectors don't ha=
ve
> CO since they also monitor particulate matter, CO2, VOC and radon.
> https://www.trutechtools.com/Defender-CA6150
>
> Best,
> Ian
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, guys. (And, thanks for the =E2=80=9CCO=E2=80=9D correction. I =
guess just too
>> much talk about CO2 in the news these days.)
>>
>> I will confirm this tonight, but my guess is that there is no one around
>> who could handle the job if my brother-in-law doesn=E2=80=99t know anyon=
e. (He is
>> a local with deep, deep ties to the area.) I will discuss it again with
>> him and my daughter and we=E2=80=99ll try to find a safe solution. If I=
can, I
>> will persuade them to just bite the bullet and replace it. Truth be tol=
d,
>> it is really the boyfriend=E2=80=99s house and he has spent a small fort=
une on
>> things that show, like the kitchen and bathrooms, but been more stingy w=
ith
>> something like this that he can=E2=80=99t see. I may just have to try t=
o convince
>> him that this is more important and, failing that, patch it and then kee=
p
>> working on him.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com> wrote:
>>
>> It needs to be replaced, but in the interim an important question is
>> whether the crack closes up when it gets hot. I had a split manifold on=
a
>> car that was not visible. I could clearly hear it when cold, but closed=
up
>> as the manifold heated up and expanded. When it was finally replace, th=
e
>> crack was clearly visible.
>>
>> This, being and older home, is likely somewhat drafty. This is not bad
>> right now. Regardless, if they continue to use it, additional CO monito=
rs
>> would definitely be a good idea.
>>
>> I suspect high temp goo might work out, but prepare for the worst.
>>
>> Jack
>>
>> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jim
>> Stone
>> *Sent:* Monday, November 8, 2021 8:18 AM
>> *To:* Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
>> *Cc:* Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Ancient furnace with cracked manifold
>>
>> Thanks, Pat. You are correct that a replacement is unavailable. The
>> furnace is just too old. As for having it welded, I should add that my
>> brother-in-law - who lives nearby and is an engineer with tons of local
>> trade contacts - looked at it and concluded that trying to remove it for
>> welding was not a good option. Surprisingly, he did not tell her to
>> replace the system immediately, which was surprising as he is someone wh=
o
>> generally errs on the side of caution in matters like this. It has been=
a
>> while since he looked at it (they have owned if for a year but not lived=
in
>> it do to other extensive renovations) but I will also call him to discus=
s
>> it.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jim, you hit on most of what I was thinking. At a MINIMUM I=E2=80=99d ad=
d a
>> second CO detector.
>>
>> I assume a replacement manifold is unavailable. You might take your
>> photos around to some welders to get their opinions & prices.
>>
>> The cost of repairs or replacement are nowhere as dear as losing someone
>> to a faulty furnace.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Pat
>> Pat Horne
>> We support Habitat for Humanity
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 8, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
>> =EF=BB=BFMy daughter and her boyfriend have bought a turn of the century=
house
>> with an ancient coal-fired furnace that was long ago converted to natura=
l
>> gas. It works fine and they=E2=80=99d like to put off replacing it for =
as long as
>> possible while they invest their money in other parts of the house.
>> However, the furnace has a cast iron exhaust manifold that is cracked
>> pretty badly and it scares the hell out of me. Following are some
>> screenshots from a video she sent me, starting with the overall exhaust.
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.19.11 AM.png>
>>
>> You can see the top of the manifold in the lower right. Here is a side
>> view:
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.12.34 AM.png>
>>
>> The orange goop was applied by a furnace tech they hired, who said he
>> really shouldn=E2=80=99t have touched it at all but did what he could.l.=
However,
>> here is a shot just below the goop:
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.13.09 AM.png>
>>
>> And, a shot from the other side:
>>
>> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.27.00 AM.png>
>>
>> As you can see - assuming the photos come through - the manifold is
>> totally shot, although it feels solid and doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be i=
n danger of
>> falling off. In theory, it could be removed and taken someplace that do=
es
>> cast iron welding, but I suspect that would be a royal pain and not
>> guaranteed to succeed. She has a CO2 detector in the basement, but I wi=
ll
>> be visiting her next week and want to try to do more. =E2=80=9CMore=E2=
=80=9D might be
>> trying to convince them to bite the bullet and replace the system
>> immediately, but I have also thought about treating it like an automotiv=
e
>> exhaust system and trying to patch it to get them by for a season or two=
.
>> What are the group's thoughts on something like JB Weld High Heat putty =
(
>> https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8297-HighHeat-Degree/dp/B007PP26RI/ref=
=3Dpd_bxgy_2/138-6104268-8394138?pd_rd_w=3DnQ3PU&pf_rd_p=3Dc64372fa-c41c-42=
2e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=3D2F076DNFFJBZ1G9PK3TY&pd_rd_r=3D623d1e00-f712=
-4380-897c-474fe9ee6337&pd_rd_wg=3D1YSqH&pd_rd_i=3DB007PP26RI&psc=3D1)
>> and/or their high heat wrap (
>> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N582CBY/ref=3Demc_b_5_t)?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jim (and Sara)
>>
>>
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I think cast iron can be brazed much more easily than wel=
ded.=C2=A0 I had it done once on an old car=E2=80=99s exhaust manifold for =
which a replacement was either unavailable or prohibitively expensive.=C2=
=A0 Worked fine for me.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 10:33 AM Ian McFetridg=
e <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk2@mcfetridge.org";>shop-talk2@mcfetridge.or=
g</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I=
t might also be helpful to have a CO detector rather than just an alarm, li=
ke the below that allows ppm of CO to be monitored for trends, changes as i=
t heats and expands, etc.=C2=A0 It's a shame the AirThings detectors do=
n't have CO since they also monitor particulate matter,=C2=A0 CO2, VOC =
and radon.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><a href=3D"https://www.trutechtools.com/Defender=
-CA6150" target=3D"_blank">https://www.trutechtools.com/Defender-CA6150</a>=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Ian</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jim Stone <<a href=3D"mailt=
o:1789alpine@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>> wrot=
e:<br></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"></blockquote></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px =
solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks, guys. =C2=A0(And, tha=
nks for the =E2=80=9CCO=E2=80=9D correction.=C2=A0 I guess just too much ta=
lk about CO2 in the news these days.)<div><br></div><div>I will confirm thi=
s tonight, but my guess is that there is no one around who could handle the=
job if my brother-in-law doesn=E2=80=99t know anyone. =C2=A0(He is a local=
with deep, deep ties to the area.) =C2=A0I will discuss it again with him =
and my daughter and we=E2=80=99ll try to find a safe solution.=C2=A0 If I c=
an, I will persuade them to just bite the bullet and replace it.=C2=A0 Trut=
h be told, it is really the boyfriend=E2=80=99s house and he has spent a sm=
all fortune on things that show, like the kitchen and bathrooms, but been m=
ore stingy with something like this that he can=E2=80=99t see.=C2=A0 I may =
just have to try to convince him that this is more important and, failing t=
hat, patch it and then keep working on him.</div><div><br></div><div>Jim=C2=
=A0<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 8, 2021, at 11:29 AM,=
Jack Brooks <<a href=3D"mailto:JIBrooks@live.com"; target=3D"_blank">JIB=
rooks@live.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helve=
tica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:=
normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfor=
m:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(=
0,32,96)">It needs to be replaced, but in the interim an important question=
is whether the crack closes up when it gets hot.=C2=A0 I had a split manif=
old on a car that was not visible.=C2=A0 I could clearly hear it when cold,=
but closed up as the manifold heated up and expanded.=C2=A0 When it was fi=
nally replace, the crack was clearly visible.<u></u><u></u></span></div><di=
v style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color=
:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;fo=
nt-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;=
font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">This, bei=
ng and older home, is likely somewhat drafty.=C2=A0 This is not bad right n=
ow.=C2=A0 Regardless, if they continue to use it, additional CO monitors wo=
uld definitely be a good idea.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style=3D"marg=
in:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;fo=
nt-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">I suspect high temp goo =
might work out, but prepare for the worst.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rg=
b(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-=
size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Jack<u></u><=
u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New R=
oman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div>=
<div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-=
color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Sho=
p-talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_b=
lank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span>=C2=A0</span><b>On Beha=
lf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b>Jim Stone<br><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Mon=
day, November 8, 2021 8:18 AM<br><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Pat Horne <=
;<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blank">patintexas@iclo=
ud.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Shop Talk <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:shop-talk@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.team.net</a=
>><br><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Re: [Shop-talk] Ancient furnace =
with cracked manifold<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0=
in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div=
><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Th=
anks, Pat.=C2=A0 You are correct that a replacement is unavailable.=C2=A0 T=
he furnace is just too old.=C2=A0 As for having it welded, I should add tha=
t my brother-in-law - who lives nearby and is an engineer with tons of loca=
l trade contacts - looked at it and concluded that trying to remove it for =
welding was not a good option.=C2=A0 Surprisingly, he did not tell her to r=
eplace the system immediately, which was surprising as he is someone who ge=
nerally errs on the side of caution in matters like this.=C2=A0 It has been=
a while since he looked at it (they have owned if for a year but not lived=
in it do to other extensive renovations) but I will also call him to discu=
ss it.<u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt=
;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br><br><u></u><u></u></div><blockquote st=
yle=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Nov 8, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Pat=
Horne <<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; style=3D"color:blue;tex=
t-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blank">patintexas@icloud.com</a>> wro=
te:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div><div style=3D"marg=
in:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Jim, you hit on most of what I=
was thinking. At a MINIMUM I=E2=80=99d add a second CO detector.=C2=A0</sp=
an><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-fa=
mily:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvet=
ica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"m=
argin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">I assume a replacement mani=
fold is unavailable. You might take your photos around to some welders to g=
et their opinions & prices.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
Helvetica,sans-serif">The cost of repairs or replacement are nowhere as dea=
r as losing someone to a faulty furnace.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></div></=
div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-s=
erif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u>=
</u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size=
:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-=
family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Peace,<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><p=
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-famil=
y:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica=
,sans-serif">Pat<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font=
-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Pat Horne=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></div=
><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-seri=
f"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">We sup=
port Habitat for Humanity<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0i=
n 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>On Nov 8, 2021, at 9:58 AM=
, Jim Stone <<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; style=3D"color:blue=
;text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blank">1789alpine@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-siz=
e:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font=
-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;=
font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">My daughter and her boyfriend have bought=
a turn of the century house with an ancient coal-fired furnace that was lo=
ng ago converted to natural gas.=C2=A0 It works fine and they=E2=80=99d lik=
e to put off replacing it for as long as possible while they invest their m=
oney in other parts of the house.=C2=A0 However, the furnace has a cast iro=
n exhaust manifold that is cracked pretty badly and it scares the hell out =
of me.=C2=A0 Following are some screenshots from a video she sent me, start=
ing with the overall exhaust.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div style=3D"=
margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:=
Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,s=
ans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.19.11 AM.png><u></u><u></u><=
/span></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"=
margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">You can see the top of the=
manifold in the lower right.=C2=A0 Here is a side view:<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-=
serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margi=
n:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 1=
0.12.34 AM.png><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style=3D=
"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></spa=
n></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-=
serif">The orange goop was applied by a furnace tech they hired, who said h=
e really shouldn=E2=80=99t have touched it at all but did what he could.l. =
However, here is a shot just below the goop:<u></u><u></u></span></div></di=
v><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></=
u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.13.09 AM.p=
ng><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;=
font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.=
5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></di=
v><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">And, =
a shot from the other side:<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helve=
tica,sans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.27.00 AM.png><u></u><u=
></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;=
font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family=
:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">As you can see - ass=
uming the photos come through - the manifold is totally shot, although it f=
eels solid and doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be in danger of falling off.=C2=A0=
In theory, it could be removed and taken someplace that does cast iron wel=
ding, but I suspect that would be a royal pain and not guaranteed to succee=
d.=C2=A0 She has a CO2 detector in the basement, but I will be visiting her=
next week and want to try to do more. =C2=A0=E2=80=9CMore=E2=80=9D might b=
e trying to convince them to bite the bullet and replace the system immedia=
tely, but I have also thought about treating it like an automotive exhaust =
system and trying to patch it to get them by for a season or two.=C2=A0 Wha=
t are the group's thoughts on something like JB Weld High Heat putty (<=
a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8297-HighHeat-Degree/dp/B007PP26R=
I/ref=3Dpd_bxgy_2/138-6104268-8394138?pd_rd_w=3DnQ3PU&pf_rd_p=3Dc64372f=
a-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=3D2F076DNFFJBZ1G9PK3TY&pd_rd_=
r=3D623d1e00-f712-4380-897c-474fe9ee6337&pd_rd_wg=3D1YSqH&pd_rd_i=
=3DB007PP26RI&psc=3D1" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:underline" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8297-HighHeat-Degree/dp/B0=
07PP26RI/ref=3Dpd_bxgy_2/138-6104268-8394138?pd_rd_w=3DnQ3PU&pf_rd_p=3D=
c64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=3D2F076DNFFJBZ1G9PK3TY&=
;pd_rd_r=3D623d1e00-f712-4380-897c-474fe9ee6337&pd_rd_wg=3D1YSqH&pd=
_rd_i=3DB007PP26RI&psc=3D1</a>) and/or their high heat wrap (<a href=3D=
"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N582CBY/ref=3Demc_b_5_t"; style=3D"color:blue;=
text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N=
582CBY/ref=3Demc_b_5_t</a>)?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div styl=
e=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family=
:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"marg=
in:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Jim (and Sara)<u></u><u></u></=
span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:C=
alibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sa=
ns-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:=
0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div>=
</div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans=
-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><=
u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;fon=
t-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div =
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