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It might also be helpful to have a CO detector rather than just an alarm,
like the below that allows ppm of CO to be monitored for trends, changes as
it heats and expands, etc. It's a shame the AirThings detectors don't have
CO since they also monitor particulate matter, CO2, VOC and radon.
https://www.trutechtools.com/Defender-CA6150
Best,
Ian
On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 12:00 PM Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, guys. (And, thanks for the =E2=80=9CCO=E2=80=9D correction. I g=
uess just too
> much talk about CO2 in the news these days.)
>
> I will confirm this tonight, but my guess is that there is no one around
> who could handle the job if my brother-in-law doesn=E2=80=99t know anyone=
. (He is
> a local with deep, deep ties to the area.) I will discuss it again with
> him and my daughter and we=E2=80=99ll try to find a safe solution. If I =
can, I
> will persuade them to just bite the bullet and replace it. Truth be told=
,
> it is really the boyfriend=E2=80=99s house and he has spent a small fortu=
ne on
> things that show, like the kitchen and bathrooms, but been more stingy wi=
th
> something like this that he can=E2=80=99t see. I may just have to try to=
convince
> him that this is more important and, failing that, patch it and then keep
> working on him.
>
> Jim
>
> On Nov 8, 2021, at 11:29 AM, Jack Brooks <JIBrooks@live.com> wrote:
>
> It needs to be replaced, but in the interim an important question is
> whether the crack closes up when it gets hot. I had a split manifold on =
a
> car that was not visible. I could clearly hear it when cold, but closed =
up
> as the manifold heated up and expanded. When it was finally replace, the
> crack was clearly visible.
>
> This, being and older home, is likely somewhat drafty. This is not bad
> right now. Regardless, if they continue to use it, additional CO monitor=
s
> would definitely be a good idea.
>
> I suspect high temp goo might work out, but prepare for the worst.
>
> Jack
>
> *From:* Shop-talk <shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Jim
> Stone
> *Sent:* Monday, November 8, 2021 8:18 AM
> *To:* Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
> *Cc:* Shop Talk <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Shop-talk] Ancient furnace with cracked manifold
>
> Thanks, Pat. You are correct that a replacement is unavailable. The
> furnace is just too old. As for having it welded, I should add that my
> brother-in-law - who lives nearby and is an engineer with tons of local
> trade contacts - looked at it and concluded that trying to remove it for
> welding was not a good option. Surprisingly, he did not tell her to
> replace the system immediately, which was surprising as he is someone who
> generally errs on the side of caution in matters like this. It has been =
a
> while since he looked at it (they have owned if for a year but not lived =
in
> it do to other extensive renovations) but I will also call him to discuss
> it.
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2021, at 11:05 AM, Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com> wrote:
>
> Jim, you hit on most of what I was thinking. At a MINIMUM I=E2=80=99d add=
a second
> CO detector.
>
> I assume a replacement manifold is unavailable. You might take your photo=
s
> around to some welders to get their opinions & prices.
>
> The cost of repairs or replacement are nowhere as dear as losing someone
> to a faulty furnace.
>
> Peace,
>
> Pat
> Pat Horne
> We support Habitat for Humanity
>
>
>
> On Nov 8, 2021, at 9:58 AM, Jim Stone <1789alpine@gmail.com> wrote:
> =EF=BB=BFMy daughter and her boyfriend have bought a turn of the century =
house
> with an ancient coal-fired furnace that was long ago converted to natural
> gas. It works fine and they=E2=80=99d like to put off replacing it for a=
s long as
> possible while they invest their money in other parts of the house.
> However, the furnace has a cast iron exhaust manifold that is cracked
> pretty badly and it scares the hell out of me. Following are some
> screenshots from a video she sent me, starting with the overall exhaust.
>
> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.19.11 AM.png>
>
> You can see the top of the manifold in the lower right. Here is a side
> view:
>
> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.12.34 AM.png>
>
> The orange goop was applied by a furnace tech they hired, who said he
> really shouldn=E2=80=99t have touched it at all but did what he could.l. =
However,
> here is a shot just below the goop:
>
> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.13.09 AM.png>
>
> And, a shot from the other side:
>
> <Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.27.00 AM.png>
>
> As you can see - assuming the photos come through - the manifold is
> totally shot, although it feels solid and doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be in=
danger of
> falling off. In theory, it could be removed and taken someplace that doe=
s
> cast iron welding, but I suspect that would be a royal pain and not
> guaranteed to succeed. She has a CO2 detector in the basement, but I wil=
l
> be visiting her next week and want to try to do more. =E2=80=9CMore=E2=
=80=9D might be
> trying to convince them to bite the bullet and replace the system
> immediately, but I have also thought about treating it like an automotive
> exhaust system and trying to patch it to get them by for a season or two.
> What are the group's thoughts on something like JB Weld High Heat putty (
> https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8297-HighHeat-Degree/dp/B007PP26RI/ref=3D=
pd_bxgy_2/138-6104268-8394138?pd_rd_w=3DnQ3PU&pf_rd_p=3Dc64372fa-c41c-422e-=
990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=3D2F076DNFFJBZ1G9PK3TY&pd_rd_r=3D623d1e00-f712-43=
80-897c-474fe9ee6337&pd_rd_wg=3D1YSqH&pd_rd_i=3DB007PP26RI&psc=3D1)
> and/or their high heat wrap (
> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N582CBY/ref=3Demc_b_5_t)?
>
> Thanks,
> Jim (and Sara)
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It might also be helpful to have a CO detector rather than=
just an alarm, like the below that allows ppm of CO to be monitored for tr=
ends, changes as it heats and expands, etc.=C2=A0 It's a shame the AirT=
hings detectors don't have CO since they also monitor particulate matte=
r,=C2=A0 CO2, VOC and radon.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div><a href=3D"https://www.trutech=
tools.com/Defender-CA6150">https://www.trutechtools.com/Defender-CA6150</a>=
<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Ian</div></div><br><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 =
at 12:00 PM Jim Stone <<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com";>1789alpin=
e@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word;">Thanks, guys. =C2=A0(A=
nd, thanks for the =E2=80=9CCO=E2=80=9D correction.=C2=A0 I guess just too =
much talk about CO2 in the news these days.)<div><br></div><div>I will conf=
irm this tonight, but my guess is that there is no one around who could han=
dle the job if my brother-in-law doesn=E2=80=99t know anyone. =C2=A0(He is =
a local with deep, deep ties to the area.) =C2=A0I will discuss it again wi=
th him and my daughter and we=E2=80=99ll try to find a safe solution.=C2=A0=
If I can, I will persuade them to just bite the bullet and replace it.=C2=
=A0 Truth be told, it is really the boyfriend=E2=80=99s house and he has sp=
ent a small fortune on things that show, like the kitchen and bathrooms, bu=
t been more stingy with something like this that he can=E2=80=99t see.=C2=
=A0 I may just have to try to convince him that this is more important and,=
failing that, patch it and then keep working on him.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Jim=C2=A0<br><div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Nov 8, 2021, at=
11:29 AM, Jack Brooks <<a href=3D"mailto:JIBrooks@live.com"; target=3D"_=
blank">JIBrooks@live.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fo=
nt-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;tex=
t-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none">=
<div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;co=
lor:rgb(0,32,96)">It needs to be replaced, but in the interim an important =
question is whether the crack closes up when it gets hot.=C2=A0 I had a spl=
it manifold on a car that was not visible.=C2=A0 I could clearly hear it wh=
en cold, but closed up as the manifold heated up and expanded.=C2=A0 When i=
t was finally replace, the crack was clearly visible.<u></u><u></u></span><=
/div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif=
"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",ser=
if;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margi=
n:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">T=
his, being and older home, is likely somewhat drafty.=C2=A0 This is not bad=
right now.=C2=A0 Regardless, if they continue to use it, additional CO mon=
itors would definitely be a good idea.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(=
0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-si=
ze:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">I suspect high=
temp goo might work out, but prepare for the worst.<u></u><u></u></span></=
div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"=
><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",seri=
f;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin=
:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)">Ja=
ck<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-f=
amily:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"T=
imes New Roman",serif;color:rgb(0,32,96)"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span><=
/div><div><div style=3D"border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1pt;b=
order-top-color:rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><div style=3D"margin:=
0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><b>From:</b><span>=C2=A0=
</span>Shop-talk <<a href=3D"mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span>=C2=A0</span>=
<b>On Behalf Of<span>=C2=A0</span></b>Jim Stone<br><b>Sent:</b><span>=C2=A0=
</span>Monday, November 8, 2021 8:18 AM<br><b>To:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Pat=
Horne <<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; target=3D"_blank">patin=
texas@icloud.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Shop Talk <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">shop-talk@autox.t=
eam.net</a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span>=C2=A0</span>Re: [Shop-talk] Ancien=
t furnace with cracked manifold<u></u><u></u></div></div></div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0=
<u></u></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sa=
ns-serif">Thanks, Pat.=C2=A0 You are correct that a replacement is unavaila=
ble.=C2=A0 The furnace is just too old.=C2=A0 As for having it welded, I sh=
ould add that my brother-in-law - who lives nearby and is an engineer with =
tons of local trade contacts - looked at it and concluded that trying to re=
move it for welding was not a good option.=C2=A0 Surprisingly, he did not t=
ell her to replace the system immediately, which was surprising as he is so=
meone who generally errs on the side of caution in matters like this.=C2=A0=
It has been a while since he looked at it (they have owned if for a year b=
ut not lived in it do to other extensive renovations) but I will also call =
him to discuss it.<u></u><u></u></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;fo=
nt-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br><br><u></u><u></u></div><b=
lockquote style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div style=3D"mar=
gin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">On Nov 8, 2021, at 1=
1:05 AM, Pat Horne <<a href=3D"mailto:patintexas@icloud.com"; style=3D"co=
lor:blue;text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blank">patintexas@icloud.com=
</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></div></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size=
:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></div><div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Jim, you hit on mo=
st of what I was thinking. At a MINIMUM I=E2=80=99d add a second CO detecto=
r.=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:=
11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-f=
amily:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><di=
v style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span =
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">I assume a repl=
acement manifold is unavailable. You might take your photos around to some =
welders to get their opinions & prices.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></div=
></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,san=
s-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-s=
ize:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;fo=
nt-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">The cost of repairs or replacement are nowh=
ere as dear as losing someone to a faulty furnace.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Cali=
bri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-=
serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in=
;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Peace,<u></u><u></u></span></div></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;=
font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family=
:Helvetica,sans-serif">Pat<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div style=3D"margi=
n:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Pat Horne=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></=
span></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri=
,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-ser=
if">We support Habitat for Humanity<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><d=
iv style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin:=
0in 0in 12pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><br>On Nov 8, 2021, at 9=
:58 AM, Jim Stone <<a href=3D"mailto:1789alpine@gmail.com"; style=3D"colo=
r:blue;text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blank">1789alpine@gmail.com</a=
>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;fo=
nt-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5p=
t;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">=EF=BB=BF</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">My daughter and her boyfriend have =
bought a turn of the century house with an ancient coal-fired furnace that =
was long ago converted to natural gas.=C2=A0 It works fine and they=E2=80=
=99d like to put off replacing it for as long as possible while they invest=
their money in other parts of the house.=C2=A0 However, the furnace has a =
cast iron exhaust manifold that is cracked pretty badly and it scares the h=
ell out of me.=C2=A0 Following are some screenshots from a video she sent m=
e, starting with the overall exhaust.<u></u><u></u></span></div><div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></=
u></span></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font=
-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Hel=
vetica,sans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.19.11 AM.png><u></u>=
<u></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11p=
t;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fami=
ly:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div s=
tyle=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">You can see the to=
p of the manifold in the lower right.=C2=A0 Here is a side view:<u></u><u><=
/u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-fam=
ily:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helveti=
ca,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021=
-11-08 at 10.12.34 AM.png><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div><d=
iv style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span=
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<=
u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-=
family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helv=
etica,sans-serif">The orange goop was applied by a furnace tech they hired,=
who said he really shouldn=E2=80=99t have touched it at all but did what h=
e could.l. However, here is a shot just below the goop:<u></u><u></u></span=
></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calib=
ri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-s=
erif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin=
:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10=
.13.09 AM.png><u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"=
margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span=
></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calib=
ri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-s=
erif">And, a shot from the other side:<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div=
><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:1=
1pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-fa=
mily:Helvetica,sans-serif"><Screen Shot 2021-11-08 at 10.27.00 AM.png>=
;<u></u><u></u></span></div></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-=
size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;f=
ont-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><di=
v><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">As you can=
see - assuming the photos come through - the manifold is totally shot, alt=
hough it feels solid and doesn=E2=80=99t appear to be in danger of falling =
off.=C2=A0 In theory, it could be removed and taken someplace that does cas=
t iron welding, but I suspect that would be a royal pain and not guaranteed=
to succeed.=C2=A0 She has a CO2 detector in the basement, but I will be vi=
siting her next week and want to try to do more. =C2=A0=E2=80=9CMore=E2=80=
=9D might be trying to convince them to bite the bullet and replace the sys=
tem immediately, but I have also thought about treating it like an automoti=
ve exhaust system and trying to patch it to get them by for a season or two=
.=C2=A0 What are the group's thoughts on something like JB Weld High He=
at putty (<a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8297-HighHeat-Degree/d=
p/B007PP26RI/ref=3Dpd_bxgy_2/138-6104268-8394138?pd_rd_w=3DnQ3PU&pf_rd_=
p=3Dc64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=3D2F076DNFFJBZ1G9PK3TY=
&pd_rd_r=3D623d1e00-f712-4380-897c-474fe9ee6337&pd_rd_wg=3D1YSqH&am=
p;pd_rd_i=3DB007PP26RI&psc=3D1" style=3D"color:blue;text-decoration:und=
erline" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/J-B-Weld-8297-HighHeat-Deg=
ree/dp/B007PP26RI/ref=3Dpd_bxgy_2/138-6104268-8394138?pd_rd_w=3DnQ3PU&p=
f_rd_p=3Dc64372fa-c41c-422e-990d-9e034f73989b&pf_rd_r=3D2F076DNFFJBZ1G9=
PK3TY&pd_rd_r=3D623d1e00-f712-4380-897c-474fe9ee6337&pd_rd_wg=3D1YS=
qH&pd_rd_i=3DB007PP26RI&psc=3D1</a>) and/or their high heat wrap (<=
a href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00N582CBY/ref=3Demc_b_5_t"; style=3D"co=
lor:blue;text-decoration:underline" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.co=
m/dp/B00N582CBY/ref=3Demc_b_5_t</a>)?<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div>=
<div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;f=
ont-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:=
Helvetica,sans-serif">Thanks,<u></u><u></u></span></div></div><div><div sty=
le=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">Jim (and Sara)<u></u=
><u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;fon=
t-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:He=
lvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=
=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=
=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u>=
</span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family=
:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></div></div><div><div style=3D"margi=
n:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></di=
v></div><div style=3D"margin:0in;font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-se=
rif"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif">____=
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