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To: 'Donald H Locker' <dhlocker@comcast.net>, shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus
From: Pat Horne <patintexas@icloud.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 08:50:16 -0500
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Good point. If the pipe can=E2=80=99t be replaced, at least install a =
pressure reducer to drop the pressure to about 25 PSI. The reason I =
recommend 25 is that it is the pressure used in RVs so regulators are =
cheap & easy to find.

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Peace,

Pat

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From: Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Donald H Locker
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2018 5:32 AM
To: shop-talk@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus

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Even after all the other comments, I'd still be leery of that piece of =
pipe. The wall thickness of 0.009" won't hold much pressure, even if you =
are successful in attaching to it.

Donald.

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On 20-Oct-2018 13:07, john niolon wrote:

When we built my house/shop 25 years ago I had the plumber install a =
3/4=E2=80=9D water line to the shop and cap it off.  I was going to put =
in the sink and the outside faucet when I got time.  Well,  this week I =
got time

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I cut the cap off and test fitted a 3/4=E2=80=9D Tee to start dry =
fitting the plumbing for sink/faucet.  The Tee wouldn=E2=80=99t fit on =
the tubing.  I cleaned it well but the Tee was still too small to fit =
over the tubing.  It looks like he used coiled tubing, or at least =
that=E2=80=99s what=E2=80=99s coming up thru the concrete.  I tried =
several fittings and even cut the tubing lower to see if it was crimped =
or out of round...  it mic=E2=80=99d the same all the way around it in =
several places

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I mic=E2=80=99d the tubing and the fitting and here=E2=80=99s the =
results

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tubing i.d. is  .882=E2=80=9D which is just over 7/8=E2=80=9D

tubing o.d. is  .900=E2=80=9D  which is just under 29/32=E2=80=9D

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a new standard Tee i.d.is .876=E2=80=9D   which ain=E2=80=99t gonna fit =
over .900

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if I can find one fitting to get this to standard 3/4=E2=80=9D size =
I=E2=80=99m good to go...

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did the old stuff differ from todays standard =E2=80=9C

after researching fittings a little I see that there are several =
=E2=80=98types=E2=80=9D of fittings.... from plumbing to hvac to =
whatever...

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anyone wanna try and give me some guidance here... the net is confusing =
and offers little on actual dimensions


thanks

john






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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Good point. If the pipe can=E2=80=99t be replaced, at least install a =
pressure reducer to drop the pressure to about 25 PSI. The reason I =
recommend 25 is that it is the pressure used in RVs so regulators are =
cheap &amp; easy to find.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>Peace,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowt=
ext'> Shop-talk [mailto:shop-talk-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf =
Of </b>Donald H Locker<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 22, 2018 5:32 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> shop-talk@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the =
gurus<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>Even after all the other =
comments, I'd still be leery of that piece of pipe. The wall thickness =
of 0.009&quot; won't hold much pressure, even if you are successful in =
attaching to =
it.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Donald.<o:p></o:p></p><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>*=
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/pre><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 20-Oct-2018 13:07, john niolon =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>When we built my house/shop =
25 years ago I had the plumber install a 3/4=E2=80=9D water line to the =
shop and cap it off.&nbsp; I was going to put in the sink and the =
outside faucet when I got time.&nbsp; Well,&nbsp; this week I got =
time<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I cut the cap off and test =
fitted a 3/4=E2=80=9D Tee to start dry fitting the plumbing for =
sink/faucet.&nbsp; The Tee wouldn=E2=80=99t fit on the tubing.&nbsp; I =
cleaned it well but the Tee was still too small to fit over the =
tubing.&nbsp; It looks like he used coiled tubing, or at least =
that=E2=80=99s what=E2=80=99s coming up thru the concrete.&nbsp; I tried =
several fittings and even cut the tubing lower to see if it was crimped =
or out of round...&nbsp; it mic=E2=80=99d the same all the way around it =
in several places<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>I mic=E2=80=99d the tubing =
and the fitting and here=E2=80=99s the =
results<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>tubing i.d. is&nbsp; =
.882=E2=80=9D which is just over =
7/8=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>tubing o.d. is&nbsp; =
.900=E2=80=9D&nbsp; which is just under =
29/32=E2=80=9D<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>a new standard Tee i.d.is =
.876=E2=80=9D&nbsp;&nbsp; which ain=E2=80=99t gonna fit over =
.900<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>if I can find one fitting =
to get this to standard 3/4=E2=80=9D size I=E2=80=99m good to =
go...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>did the old stuff differ =
from todays standard =E2=80=9C<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>after researching fittings =
a little I see that there are several =E2=80=98types=E2=80=9D of =
fittings.... from plumbing to hvac to =
whatever...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>anyone wanna try and give =
me some guidance here... the net is confusing and offers little on =
actual dimensions<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><br>thanks<o:p></o:p></span>=
</p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>john<o:p></o:p></span></p></=
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