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Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus

To: "David Scheidt" <dmscheidt@gmail.com>, "shop-talk" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus
From: "john niolon" <jniolon@att.net>
Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2018 07:33:50 -0500
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it=E2=80=99s not out of round, Dave.  I mic=E2=80=99d it all the way =
around... and it was within .001 .  Someone mentioned freezing...  this =
pipe did freeze and burst in the past.  but the break was a foot above =
where I=E2=80=99m taking measurements.  That whole foot was removed.  I =
guess it could have expanded the whole section above the floor some.   =
And the section removed is the same diameter as what I=E2=80=99m looking =
at now so that might be a clue..  If my old back and knees will allow =
it, I=E2=80=99m going into the crawl space on the other end of the line =
and check sizes there, gotta do it anyway to turn it back on eventually. =
=20

I talked to an old  plumber as suggested (well, he=E2=80=99s as old as =
me...70=E2=80=99s) and he suggested reaming/swaging the tube and insert =
a short section of standard 3/4 straight pipe and solder it in well.  =
That would get me back to standard sizes.  I think I=E2=80=99m gonna try =
that tomorrow.   The fittings I=E2=80=99m using came from Home =
Depot/Lowes but I also checked some older fittings and they were the =
same measurements...  More to come !

From: David Scheidt=20
Sent: Sunday, October 21, 2018 7:06 AM
To: john niolon=20
Cc: shop-talk=20
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from the gurus



On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:07, john niolon <jniolon@att.net> wrote:


  When we built my house/shop 25 years ago I had the plumber install a =
3/4=E2=80=9D water line to the shop and cap it off.  I was going to put =
in the sink and the outside faucet when I got time.  Well,  this week I =
got time

  I cut the cap off and test fitted a 3/4=E2=80=9D Tee to start dry =
fitting the plumbing for sink/faucet.  The Tee wouldn=E2=80=99t fit on =
the tubing.  I cleaned it well but the Tee was still too small to fit =
over the tubing.  It looks like he used coiled tubing, or at least =
that=E2=80=99s what=E2=80=99s coming up thru the concrete.=20

Is it out of round?  That=E2=80=99s a common problem with soft tube.  =
Plumbers have rerounding tools for the problem. =20


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<DIV>it=E2=80=99s not out of round, Dave.&nbsp; I mic=E2=80=99d it all =
the way around... and it=20
was within .001 .&nbsp; Someone mentioned freezing...&nbsp; this pipe =
did freeze=20
and burst in the past.&nbsp; but the break was a foot above where =
I=E2=80=99m taking=20
measurements.&nbsp; That whole foot was removed.&nbsp; I guess it could =
have=20
expanded the whole section above the floor some.&nbsp;&nbsp; And the =
section=20
removed is the same diameter as what I=E2=80=99m looking at now so that =
might be a=20
clue..&nbsp; If my old back and knees will allow it, I=E2=80=99m going =
into the crawl=20
space on the other end of the line and check sizes there, gotta do it =
anyway to=20
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<DIV>I talked to an old&nbsp; plumber as suggested (well, he=E2=80=99s =
as old as=20
me...70=E2=80=99s) and he suggested reaming/swaging the tube and insert =
a short section=20
of standard 3/4 straight pipe and solder it in well.&nbsp; That would =
get me=20
back to standard sizes.&nbsp; I think I=E2=80=99m gonna try that =
tomorrow.&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
The fittings I=E2=80=99m using came from Home Depot/Lowes but I also =
checked some older=20
fittings and they were the same measurements...&nbsp; More to come =
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href=3D"mailto:dmscheidt@gmail.com";>David Scheidt</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 21, 2018 7:06 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Djniolon@att.net =
href=3D"mailto:jniolon@att.net";>john=20
niolon</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dshop-talk@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:shop-talk@autox.team.net";>shop-talk</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Shop-talk] need some copper plumbing help from =
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<DIV><BR>On Oct 20, 2018, at 12:07, john niolon &lt;<A=20
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  <DIV>When we built my house/shop 25 years ago I had the plumber =
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sink=20
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  <DIV>I cut the cap off and test fitted a 3/4=E2=80=9D Tee to start dry =
fitting the=20
  plumbing for sink/faucet.&nbsp; The Tee wouldn=E2=80=99t fit on the =
tubing.&nbsp; I=20
  cleaned it well but the Tee was still too small to fit over the =
tubing.&nbsp;=20
  It looks like he used coiled tubing, or at least that=E2=80=99s =
what=E2=80=99s coming up thru=20
  the concrete. </DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>Is it out of round?&nbsp; That=E2=80=99s a common =
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