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I struggled with this quandry for years (partly because I got tired of
having all my work clothes having a circular stain on them). As noted,
anti-seize is intended for and most useful for threads where grease
would get cooked off, like spark plugs; it's not intended to be a good
lubricant, even though, like most greases, it's oil with a thickener
(moly, lithium, etc.). I believe even the best splined hubs will have a
teensy bit of ratchet-like movement, and since the hubs don't get all
that hot grease would be the better lubricant. I usually use wheel
bearing grease, as it's thicker, designed for warm applications and
persistent.
Bob
On 5/10/2020 7:16 PM, Perry via Healeys wrote:
>
> My understanding is that anti seize was developed for higher
> temperature threaded connections along with a few other things long ago..
>
> If you look at recommendations from manufacturers of splined
> connections, like the slip joint in driveshafts, they say to use grease.
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:54 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Part III Knock offs
>
> Maybe anti seize hadn't been invented when the manual was written.Â
> Anti seize surely does get onto every surface once you apply it in one
> place.
>
> -Roland
>
> On Sun, May 10, 2020, 6:48 PM Perry via Healeys
>
> Yes this could turn into an all familiar thread on oils however
> lets just go back to what every factory service/workshop manual
> all say about the maintenance or service of the wire wheel
> splines, â??A little grease should be smeared upon the splines and
> cone faces of the hub and wheel before refitting.â??
>
> Perry
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>
> for Windows 10
>
> *Sent: *Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:36 PM
>
> Perhaps a little tangential to the main thread, and fully aware of
> the likelihood of me being accused of being pedantic (which never
> happens on this list J), but regarding what to use on splines to
> stop the wheel seizing on, I have never understood why the
> recommendation is always for grease. Grease is designed to
> lubricate parts, whereas the intent of applying it to the splines
> is to prevent them seizing on, not reduce friction (i.e.,
> lubricate). For that reason I have always used an anti-seizing
> product, my favourite being Permatex Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant
> (they call it a lubricant, but woe betide anyone who actually uses
> it to lubricate). It should be used very sparingly, and I have
> never had an issue with a wheel sizing on the splines. A very
> fine smear of grease on the outside of the taper on the knock-off
> I agree is a good thing as the intent there IS to lubricate. Also,
> providing it is used sparingly, I have never had it seep out of
> the hub and onto the spokes, avoiding the (in my opinion) terrible
> practice of smearing sillycone (mis-spell intended) over the spoke
> heads inside the hub. Not to say grease does not work, it will,
> but why not use a product designed for the purpose, and achieve
> clean spokes at the same time?
>
> Cheers, Mirek
>
>
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I struggled with this quandry for years (partly because I got tired
of having all my work clothes having a circular stain on them). As
noted, anti-seize is intended for and most useful for threads where
grease would get cooked off, like spark plugs; it's not intended to
be a good lubricant, even though, like most greases, it's oil with a
thickener (moly, lithium, etc.). I believe even the best splined
hubs will have a teensy bit of ratchet-like movement, and since the
hubs don't get all that hot grease would be the better lubricant. I
usually use wheel bearing grease, as it's thicker, designed for warm
applications and persistent.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">My understanding is that anti seize was
developed for higher temperature threaded connections along
with a few other things long ago.. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you look at recommendations from
manufacturers of splined connections, like the slip joint in
driveshafts, they say to use grease. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Sent from <a
href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986";
moz-do-not-send="true">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="border:none;padding:0in"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:sentenac.rw@gmail.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">Roland Wilhelmy</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, May 10, 2020 9:54 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";
moz-do-not-send="true">Perry</a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Part III Knock offs</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Maybe anti seize hadn't been invented
when the manual was written. Anti seize surely does get
onto every surface once you apply it in one place. </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">-Roland</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>Â </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, May 10, 2020, 6:48 PM Perry via
Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Yes
this could turn into an all familiar thread on oils
however lets just go back to what every factory
service/workshop manual all say about the maintenance
or service of the wire wheel splines, â??A little grease
should be smeared upon the splines and cone faces of
the hub and wheel before refitting.â??</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Perry</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Â </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Sent
from <a
href="https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mail</a> for
Windows 10</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Â </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b>From:
</b><a href="mailto:m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Mirek Sharp</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, May 10, 2020 7:36 PM<br>
<b>To: </b><a href="mailto:healeyguy@aol.com";
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">'Perry'</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">Perhaps a little tangential to the main
thread, and fully aware of the likelihood of me
being accused of being pedantic (which never happens
on this list </span><span
style="font-family:Wingdings" lang="EN-CA">J</span><span
lang="EN-CA">), but regarding what to use on splines
to stop the wheel seizing on, I have never
understood why the recommendation is always for
grease. Grease is designed to lubricate parts,
whereas the intent of applying it to the splines is
to prevent them seizing on, not reduce friction
(i.e., lubricate). For that reason I have always
used an anti-seizing product, my favourite being
Permatex Copper Anti-Seize Lubricant (they call it a
lubricant, but woe betide anyone who actually uses
it to lubricate). It should be used very sparingly,
and I have never had an issue with a wheel sizing on
the splines. A very fine smear of grease on the
outside of the taper on the knock-off I agree is a
good thing as the intent there IS to lubricate.Â
Also, providing it is used sparingly, I have never
had it seep out of the hub and onto the spokes,
avoiding the (in my opinion) terrible practice of
smearing sillycone (mis-spell intended) over the
spoke heads inside the hub. Not to say grease does
not work, it will, but why not use a product
designed for the purpose, and achieve clean spokes
at the same time?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">Â </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
lang="EN-CA">Cheers, Mirek</span></p>
<br>
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