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Replacement parts-not NOS-what if the knockoff bottoms out on the=0Aspli=
ne face before it tightens to the cone of the wire wheel? A=0Acombinatio=
n of measured errors on replacement parts could create this=0Acondition-=
front to back. The knockoffs were made to tighten, but not=0Abe whaled u=
pon. If properly applied each side they are self tightening=0Aand I norm=
ally spin them on hand tight, hit them with the rawhide snug=0Awhile sti=
ll up in the air, and then wack them one more time on the=0Aground with=
the copper side of Thor.=0AOne time in the early '70s I witnessed a BMC=
"mechanic" whaling on a=0Aknockoff of the Healey, still hanging on the=
lube rack, with a ten=0Apound long handle sledge hammer! Flat ears? you=
betcha.=0AI would make sure that when mounted, the front edge of the wh=
eel is=0Ajust forward of the inner depth of the knockoff so that it actu=
ally=0Acontacts metal as it snugs it to the rear ring on the hub. =0AAls=
o-grease-not to much- but be sure splines, and ring of hub, and=0Aknocko=
ff threads have a light smear. I use HD wheel bearing grease so=0Ait doe=
sn't seep out the spoke nibs like moly or light grease would.=0AHank=0A=
=0A=09-----------------------------------------From: "Perry via Healeys"=
=0ATo: "rrengineer.mike@att.net"=0ACc: "healeys@autox.team.net"=0ASent:=
Sunday May 10 2020 9:01:21AM=0ASubject: Re: [Healeys] The Saturday Nigh=
t Rant - Part III Knock offs=0A=0A=09Michael et al,=0A=0A=09Contemplate=
the mechanical connections between the hub extension,=0Awire wheel hub=
and the knockoff. =0A=0A=09The hub extension is bolted to the axle usin=
g tapered nuts that seat=0Ain the face of the extension. No rotational m=
ovement.=0A=0A=09The wire wheel is connected to the hub extension via th=
e splines. The=0Atolerances in the splines may allow for some rotational=
movement but=0Athey have to be loose enough to get the wheel off the ex=
tension. =0A=0A=09What else holds the wheel in place=E2=80=A6the knockof=
f. The cone in the=0Aknock off forces the wire wheel hub against the hub=
extension, The=0Acontact interface is the tapers on the hub extension a=
nd the wire=0Awheel hub. You know the little area that we are frequently=
reminded to=0Aapply a smear of grease to stop the little squeaky noise=
at low speed.=0AIf the knock off is tight enough there is not movement=
here either.=0A=0A=09So Mike, if you see movement between the knock off=
and the wire=0Awheel, the knock off is not tight enough. =0A=0A=09Suspe=
ct that the folks that developed knock offs understood the=0Aproblem of=
owners/mechanics not getting them tight enough and used the=0Ahanded (l=
eft and right) threads that self tighten. =0A=0A=09Gentlemen, remember y=
our Mother today!=0A=0A=09Perry=0A=0A=09Sent from Mail [1] for Windows 1=
0=0A=0A=09FROM: Michael MacLean [2]=0ASENT: Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:57 A=
M=0ATO: Healeys [3]=0ASUBJECT: [Healeys] The Saturday Night Rant - Part=
III=0A=0A=09At my age (approaching this side of 70) I am on lock down a=
t my=0Ahouse. I even have my groceries delivered. I will only go out to=
eat=0Aat a drive through with an N95 mask on. My Boston Terrier that go=
es=0Awith me does not wear one. He refuses, but he is only three years o=
ld.=0ASo, being sequestered to my domicile I have taken up the restorati=
on=0Aof my BN2 with a vengeance. I did not know I knew so many off color=
=0Aphrases. Everything to be done on this car is difficult due to parts=
=0Aincompatibility, parts fit, parts unavailability or just my general=
=0Aignorance and/or incompetence. This evening I finished mounting the=
=0Aright side front hub with all new parts. I thought I had done a nice=
=0Ajob. No lateral play in the hub. Turns easily without binding. The=0A=
correct amount of shims after much trial and error. Disc brake=0Aconvers=
ion was mounted and braided stainless steel flex brake lines=0Ahooked up=
at both ends. I have yet to run the brake lines. Maybe next.=0AThis ran=
t is about the brand new Dayton wire wheels. I mounted the=0Awire wheels=
which have temporary used tires on them so I can move the=0Acar when it=
is down off the dollies. After mounting the wheel I gave=0Athe two eare=
d knockoff several pretty good whacks. Now the moment of=0Atruth. I grab=
bed the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock position and pulled=0Astraight back and=
forth. Yay! No play, but when I rocked the wheel it=0Amoved slightly. I=
thought it was the hub, but looking closely you can=0Asee the wire whee=
l hub rocking back and forth in the knockoff! What!?!=0AHow hard are you=
supposed to hit those knockoffs?=0A=0A=09Mike MacLean=0A=0A=09 =0A=0ALi=
nks:=0A------=0A[1] https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986=0A[=
2] mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net=0A[3] mailto:healeys@autox.team.net=0A
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<html><body>Replacement parts-not NOS-what if the knockoff bottoms=
out on the spline face before it tightens to the cone of the wire wheel=
? A combination of measured errors on replacement parts could crea=
te this condition-front to back. The knockoffs were made to tighten, but=
not be whaled upon. If properly applied each side they are self t=
ightening and I normally spin them on hand tight, hit them with the rawh=
ide snug while still up in the air, and then wack them one more time on=
the ground with the copper side of Thor.<div><br></div><div>One time in=
the early '70s I witnessed a BMC "mechanic" whaling on a knockoff of th=
e Healey, still hanging on the lube rack, with a ten pound long handle s=
ledge hammer! Flat ears? you betcha.</div><div><br></div><div>I wo=
uld make sure that when mounted, the front edge of the wheel is just for=
ward of the inner depth of the knockoff so that it actually contacts met=
al as it snugs it to the rear ring on the hub. </div><div><br></div=
><div>Also-grease-not to much- but be sure splines, and ring of hub, and=
knockoff threads have a light smear. I use HD wheel bearing grease =
; so it doesn't seep out the spoke nibs like moly or light grease would.=
Hank<br><br><div class=3D"reply-new-signature"></div><p>---------------=
--------------------------</p>From: "Perry via Healeys" <healeys@autox.t=
eam.net><br>To: "rrengineer.mike@att.net"<br>Cc: "healeys@autox.team.net=
"<br>Sent: Sunday May 10 2020 9:01:21AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] The Sa=
turday Night Rant - Part III Knock offs<br><br><meta http-equiv=3D"Conte=
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tyle><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Michael et al,</=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Contemplate the mechanical connections between=
the hub extension, wire wheel hub and the knockoff. </p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">The hub extension is bolted to the axle using tapered nuts that=
seat in the face of the extension. No rotational movement.</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">The wire wheel is connected to the hub extension via the=
splines. The tolerances in the splines may allow for some rotational mo=
vement but they have to be loose enough to get the wheel off the extensi=
on. </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What else holds the wheel in place=E2=80=
=A6the knockoff. The cone in the knock off forces the wire wheel hub aga=
inst the hub extension, The contact interface is the tapers on the hub e=
xtension and the wire wheel hub. You know the little area that we are fr=
equently reminded to apply a smear of grease to stop the little squeaky=
noise at low speed. If the knock off is tight enough there is not movem=
ent here either.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So Mike, if you see movement=
between the knock off and the wire wheel, the knock off is not tight en=
ough. </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Suspect that the folks that devel=
oped knock offs understood the problem of owners/mechanics not getting t=
hem tight enough and used the handed (left and right) threads that self=
tighten. </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Gentlemen, remember your Mother tod=
ay!</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Perry</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> =
;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.micros=
oft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div style=3D"mso-element:para-border-di=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"border:none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a=
href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>Michael MacLean</a><br><b>Sent:=
</b>Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:57 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:heale=
ys@autox.team.net">Healeys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] The Saturday=
Night Rant - Part III</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p>=
</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Times New Roman",serif">At my age (approaching this=
side of 70) I am on lock down at my house. I even have my groceri=
es delivered. I will only go out to eat at a drive through with an=
N95 mask on. My Boston Terrier that goes with me does not wear on=
e. He refuses, but he is only three years old. So, being seq=
uestered to my domicile I have taken up the restoration of my BN2 with a=
vengeance. I did not know I knew so many off color phrases. =
Everything to be done on this car is difficult due to parts incompatibi=
lity, parts fit, parts unavailability or just my general ignorance=
and/or incompetence. This evening I finished mounting the right s=
ide front hub with all new parts. I thought I had done a nice job.=
No lateral play in the hub. Turns easily without binding.&n=
bsp; The correct amount of shims after much trial and error. Disc=
brake conversion was mounted and braided stainless steel flex brake lin=
es hooked up at both ends. I have yet to run the brake lines. =
; Maybe next. This rant is about the brand new Dayton wire w=
heels. I mounted the wire wheels which have temporary used tires o=
n them so I can move the car when it is down off the dollies. Afte=
r mounting the wheel I gave the two eared knockoff several pretty good w=
hacks. Now the moment of truth. I grabbed the wheel at 9 and=
3 o'clock position and pulled straight back and forth. Yay! No pl=
ay, but when I rocked the wheel it moved slightly. I thought it wa=
s the hub, but looking closely you can see the wire wheel hub rocking ba=
ck and forth in the knockoff! What!?! How hard are you suppo=
sed to hit those knockoffs?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New=
Roman",serif">Mike MacLean<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div></healeys@autox.team.net></div></body></=
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