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OK, I got the message.=C2=A0 First of all because I converted from drum to =
3000 disc brakes the hub extensions are different between front and back.=
=C2=A0 I doubt this makes a difference in mounting the wire wheel.=C2=A0 La=
te last night I went out to the garage and got out the big lead hammer I bo=
ught recently to get the knockoffs loose on my MGB GT.=C2=A0 I beat the Hea=
ley knockoffs a lot harder this time.=C2=A0 The wire wheel hub tightened up=
and showed no movement.=C2=A0 Apparently using a plastic dead blow hammer =
was not enough.Mike MacLean
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On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:09 AM, Michael Salter<michaelsalter@gmail.com> =
wrote: Correct Perry but at one time there was a combination of hubs, spl=
ines and nuts which really didn't work so, when the nut was fully tightened=
and bottomed out on the thread the wheel wasn't clamped between the inner =
taper and the taper inside the nut .... a tad frustrating....
M
On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:01 PM Perry via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>=
wrote:
Michael et al,
Contemplate the mechanical connections between the hub extension, wire whee=
l hub and the knockoff.=20
The hub extension is bolted to the axle using tapered nuts that seat in the=
face of the extension. No rotational movement.
The wire wheel is connected to the hub extension via the splines. The toler=
ances in the splines may allow for some rotational movement but they have t=
o be loose enough to get the wheel off the extension.=20
What else holds the wheel in place=E2=80=A6the knockoff. The cone in the kn=
ock off forces the wire wheel hub against the hub extension, The contact in=
terface is the tapers on the hub extension and the wire wheel hub. You know=
the little area that we are frequently reminded to apply a smear of grease=
to stop the little squeaky noise at low speed. If the knock off is tight e=
nough there is not movement here either.
So Mike, if you see movement between the knock off and the wire wheel, the =
knock off is not tight enough.=C2=A0=20
Suspect that the folks that developed knock offs understood the problem of =
owners/mechanics not getting them tight enough and used the handed (left an=
d right) threads that self tighten.=20
Gentlemen, remember your Mother today!
Perry
=C2=A0
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=C2=A0
From: Michael MacLean
Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:57 AM
To: Healeys
Subject: [Healeys] The Saturday Night Rant - Part III
=C2=A0
At my age (approaching this side of 70) I am on lock down at my house.=C2=
=A0 I even have my groceries delivered.=C2=A0 I will only go out to eat at =
a drive through with an N95 mask on.=C2=A0 My Boston Terrier that goes with=
me does not wear one.=C2=A0 He refuses, but he is only three years old.=C2=
=A0 So, being sequestered to my domicile I have taken up the restoration of=
my BN2 with a vengeance.=C2=A0 I did not know I knew so many off color phr=
ases.=C2=A0 Everything to be done on this car is difficult due to parts inc=
ompatibility, parts fit, parts unavailability or just=C2=A0 my general igno=
rance and/or incompetence.=C2=A0 This evening I finished mounting the right=
side front hub with all new parts.=C2=A0 I thought I had done a nice job.=
=C2=A0 No lateral play in the hub.=C2=A0 Turns easily without binding.=C2=
=A0 The correct amount of shims after much trial and error.=C2=A0 Disc brak=
e conversion was mounted and braided stainless steel flex brake lines hooke=
d up at both ends.=C2=A0 I have yet to run the brake lines.=C2=A0 Maybe nex=
t.=C2=A0=C2=A0 This rant is about the brand new Dayton wire wheels.=C2=A0 I=
mounted the wire wheels which have temporary used tires on them so I can m=
ove the car when it is down off the dollies.=C2=A0 After mounting the wheel=
I gave the two eared knockoff several pretty good whacks.=C2=A0 Now the mo=
ment of truth.=C2=A0 I grabbed the wheel at 9 and 3 o'clock position and pu=
lled straight back and forth.=C2=A0 Yay! No play, but when I rocked the whe=
el it moved slightly.=C2=A0 I thought it was the hub, but looking closely y=
ou can see the wire wheel hub rocking back and forth in the knockoff!=C2=A0=
What!?!=C2=A0 How hard are you supposed to hit those knockoffs?
Mike MacLean
=C2=A0
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OK, I got the message. First of all because I converted from drum to =
3000 disc brakes the hub extensions are different between front and back.&n=
bsp; I doubt this makes a difference in mounting the wire wheel. Late=
last night I went out to the garage and got out the big lead hammer I boug=
ht recently to get the knockoffs loose on my MGB GT. I beat the Heale=
y knockoffs a lot harder this time. The wire wheel hub tightened up a=
nd showed no movement. Apparently using a plastic dead blow hammer wa=
s not enough.<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1589132685506">Mike MacL=
ean<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a id=3D"ymail_android_signa=
ture_link" href=3D"https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&c=3D=
Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=3Dym&af=
_sub1=3DInternal&af_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&af_sub3=3DEmailSignature"=
>Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style=
=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <div style=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; col=
or:#6D00F6;"> <div>On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 9:09 AM, Michael Salter</div><di=
v><michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:</div> </div> <div style=3D"padding=
: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; border-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div=
id=3D"yiv9689408368"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"yiv9689408368gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">Corr=
ect Perry but at one time there was a combination of hubs, splines and nuts=
which really didn't work so, when the nut was fully tightened and bottomed=
out on the thread the wheel wasn't clamped between the inner taper and the=
taper inside the nut .... a tad frustrating....</div><div class=3D"yiv9689=
408368gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small;"><br></div><div class=3D"yiv9689408368gmail_default" style=3D"fon=
t-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">M<br></div></div><br><=
div class=3D"yiv9689408368gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yiv9689408=
368gmail_attr">On Sun, May 10, 2020 at 12:01 PM Perry via Healeys <<a re=
l=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"yiv9689408368gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">=
<div lang=3D"EN-US"><div class=3D"yiv9689408368gmail-m_-5983358442887890715=
WordSection1"><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">Michael et al,</p><p clas=
s=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">Contemplate the mechanical connections between=
the hub extension, wire wheel hub and the knockoff. </p><p class=3D"yiv968=
9408368MsoNormal">The hub extension is bolted to the axle using tapered nut=
s that seat in the face of the extension. No rotational movement.</p><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">The wire wheel is connected to the hub extens=
ion via the splines. The tolerances in the splines may allow for some rotat=
ional movement but they have to be loose enough to get the wheel off the ex=
tension. </p><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">What else holds the wheel =
in place=E2=80=A6the knockoff. The cone in the knock off forces the wire wh=
eel hub against the hub extension, The contact interface is the tapers on t=
he hub extension and the wire wheel hub. You know the little area that we a=
re frequently reminded to apply a smear of grease to stop the little squeak=
y noise at low speed. If the knock off is tight enough there is not movemen=
t here either.</p><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">So Mike, if you see m=
ovement between the knock off and the wire wheel, the knock off is not tigh=
t enough. </p><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">Suspect that the fo=
lks that developed knock offs understood the problem of owners/mechanics no=
t getting them tight enough and used the handed (left and right) threads th=
at self tighten. </p><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">Gentlemen, remembe=
r your Mother today!</p><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal">Perry</p><p cla=
ss=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class=3D"yiv968940=
8368MsoNormal">Sent from <a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"http=
s://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p=
class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div style=3D"bor=
der-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid non=
e none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"yiv=
9689408368MsoNormal" style=3D"border:medium none;padding:0in;"><b>From: </b=
><a rel=3D"nofollow" ymailto=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";>Michael MacLean</a><br><b>Se=
nt: </b>Sunday, May 10, 2020 12:57 AM<br><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:hea=
leys@autox.team.net">Healeys</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] The Saturday =
Night Rant - Part III</p></div><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal"><u></u>&=
nbsp;<u></u></p><div><div><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:New serif;">At my age (approaching this side=
of 70) I am on lock down at my house. I even have my groceries deliv=
ered. I will only go out to eat at a drive through with an N95 mask o=
n. My Boston Terrier that goes with me does not wear one. He re=
fuses, but he is only three years old. So, being sequestered to my do=
micile I have taken up the restoration of my BN2 with a vengeance. I =
did not know I knew so many off color phrases. Everything to be done =
on this car is difficult due to parts incompatibility, parts fit, parts una=
vailability or just my general ignorance and/or incompetence. T=
his evening I finished mounting the right side front hub with all new parts=
. I thought I had done a nice job. No lateral play in the hub.&=
nbsp; Turns easily without binding. The correct amount of shims after=
much trial and error. Disc brake conversion was mounted and braided =
stainless steel flex brake lines hooked up at both ends. I have yet t=
o run the brake lines. Maybe next. This rant is about the=
brand new Dayton wire wheels. I mounted the wire wheels which have t=
emporary used tires on them so I can move the car when it is down off the d=
ollies. After mounting the wheel I gave the two eared knockoff severa=
l pretty good whacks. Now the moment of truth. I grabbed the wh=
eel at 9 and 3 o'clock position and pulled straight back and forth. Y=
ay! No play, but when I rocked the wheel it moved slightly. I thought=
it was the hub, but looking closely you can see the wire wheel hub rocking=
back and forth in the knockoff! What!?! How hard are you suppo=
sed to hit those knockoffs?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class=3D=
"yiv9689408368MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:New seri=
f;">Mike MacLean<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"yiv9689408368MsoNormal=
"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div>_____________________________________=
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