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from [Jean Caron] [Permanent Link][Original]
To: 'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pumps and other repro parts
From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2015 23:39:00 +0000
Cc: "'Healeys, Forum'" <healeys@autox.team.net>
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Michael=2C
I think a perfect example of that is the batch of early Lucas Horn rings th=
at you commissioned=2C they were an excellent reproduction of the original.=
 I am sure that you inspected the samples(s) sent to you before you ordered=
 a quantity of them.

Jean=20

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From: michael.salter@gmail.com [mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com] On Behalf =
Of Michael Salter
Sent: March-01-15 5:12 PM
To: josef-eckert@t-online.de
Cc: John Davidson=3B Healeys=2C Forum
Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pumps and other repro parts Hi Josef=2CIn your=
 post you said "Most parts are ordered from China. You get a sample=2C you =
order a batch of 100=2C 500 or 1000 pieces."I really believe that the fault=
 lies largely with the company ordering the parts. If a sample is supplied =
it behooves the purchaser to thoroughly inspect and test the sample. The BJ=
8 water pumps are a classic example. Anyone with just a little experience i=
n the rebuilding of water pumps could easily have disassembled such a sampl=
e and determined that the internal parts were not the same as the original =
pump and were just not up to the job. As an individual I have managed to so=
urce the original seal and bearing from reputable suppliers.=20
Using those parts it would have been a lot easier to have the castings made=
 to the original specifications and an exact replica pump then produced. Th=
e pumps that BMC produced were developed over many years and to casually di=
scard all that experience and think that one can easily design an externall=
y similar pump using adapted modern parts that will be reliable=2C without =
extensive testing=2C is total folly. On another note Bob is absolutely corr=
ect in that owners will opt for reproduction parts over restored originals =
every time in the mistaken belief that "new is better". Unfortunately the "=
disposable society" has conditioned the most people to believe that new is =
always better!!
>From hard learned experience I will ALWAYS opt for a good restorable origin=
al component over a new replacement every time even if it costs a lot more.=
 Flame away!!!Michael SBN1 #174=20

If you can't fix it with a hammer=2C you've got an electrical problem.
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>Michael=2C<br>I think a perfect =
example of that is the batch of early Lucas Horn rings that you commissione=
d=2C they were an excellent reproduction of the original. I am sure that yo=
u inspected the samples(s) sent to you before you ordered a quantity of the=
m.<br><br>Jean <br><br><div><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=3Bfont-family:&=
quot=3BCalibri&quot=3B=2Csans-serif=3Bcolor:#1F497D=3B"> <br></span><div cl=
ass=3D"ecxWordSection1"><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:11.0pt=3Bfont-family:&quot=3BCalibri&quot=3B=2Csans-serif=3B" lang=3D"EN=
-US">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt=3Bfont-family:&quot=3B=
Calibri&quot=3B=2Csans-serif=3B" lang=3D"EN-US"> michael.salter@gmail.com [=
mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael Salter<br><b>S=
ent:</b> March-01-15 5:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> josef-eckert@t-online.de<br><b>C=
c:</b> John Davidson=3B Healeys=2C Forum<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] w=
ater pumps and other repro parts</span></p><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp=
=3B</p><div><div><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=
=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=3B">Hi Josef=2C</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"e=
cxMsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=3B">I=
n your post you said<i> "Most parts are ordered from China. You get a sampl=
e=2C you order a batch of 100=2C 500 or 1000 pieces."</i></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans=
 MS&quot=3B=3B">I really believe that the fault lies largely with the compa=
ny ordering the parts. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=3B">If a sample is sup=
plied it behooves the purchaser to thoroughly inspect and test the sample. =
The BJ8 water pumps are a classic example. Anyone with just a little experi=
ence in the rebuilding of water pumps could easily have disassembled such a=
 sample and determined that the internal parts were not the same as the ori=
ginal pump and were just not up to the job. </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ecxMsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=
=3B">As an individual I have managed to source the original seal and bearin=
g from reputable suppliers. <br>Using those parts it would have been a lot =
easier to have the castings made to the original specifications and an exac=
t replica pump then produced. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ecxMsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=3B">The pumps t=
hat BMC produced were developed over many years and to casually discard all=
 that experience and think that one can easily design an externally similar=
 pump using adapted modern parts that will be reliable=2C without extensive=
 testing=2C is total folly. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=3B">On another no=
te Bob is absolutely correct in that owners will opt for reproduction parts=
 over restored originals every time in the mistaken belief that "new is bet=
ter". Unfortunately the "disposable society" has conditioned the most peopl=
e to believe that new is always better!!<br>From hard learned experience I =
will ALWAYS opt for a good restorable original component over a new replace=
ment every time even if it costs a lot more. </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ecxMsoNormal" style=3D""><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans =
MS&quot=3B=3B">Flame away!!!</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-family:&quot=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=3B">Michael S</sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3D"ecxMsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t=3BComic Sans MS&quot=3B=3B">BN1 #174</span></p></div></div><div><p class=
=3D"ecxMsoNormal">&nbsp=3B</p><div><br><br></div><div><div><div><div><p cla=
ss=3D"ecxMsoNormal" style=3D""><i><span style=3D"color:black=3B">If you can=
't fix it with a hammer=2C you've got an electrical problem.</span></i></p>=
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