I agree that such a listing would be a very valuable tool both for the owner
and the restorer to implicitly apply pressure to the industry. This
potentially will be seen by some in the industry as an opportunity to
justify higher pricing to eliminate the poor quality problems. The list
should be written in the positive as this will reduce the potential for any
legal actions as the list only contains those who have provided the proper
part as close to original as technology improvements allow. This list would
need to be "live" as there are suppliers who will genuinely not know that
their suppliers/manufacturers have not met the "standard of acceptance" but
who would respond properly to being notified of the problem.
John R Davidson, BN2, AN5
H (204) 895-4523, C (204) 295-9207
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Magnus
Karlsson
Sent: March-01-15 4:44 AM
To: Andy
Cc: <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pumps and other repro parts
To make such a listing sounds like a very good idea!
Magnus Karlsson
www.concourshealeys.com
> 1 mar 2015 kl. 11:29 skrev Andy <sneddon@xsmail.com>:
>
> Magnus raises a very valid point here re-the viability of companies
> selling less than adequate parts. However I am sure that they "get
> away" with this because many of the orders they receive will be from
> folks who don't have the breadth of repeat usage experience that the
specialist restorers have.
> i.e. they don't know that they are ordering poor quality parts.
>
> From personal experience, receiving an order from one of the main (and
> I have tried quite a few!) is always a bit of a voyage of discovery
> and almost always results in receiving some parts which you are happy
> with the "quality", albeit finish, appearance etc and others where you
> feel are sub standard (rust breakthrough on new hubs, incorrect engine
> mounts, poor paint finish, being some I could mention). In my case
> this is even without having run the car yet - so no doubt some of the
> issues raised in this thread may appear.
>
> I am not sure how it can be done, but there must be scope to collate
> the "experience" of the Healey Community into some form of guide or
> listing, highlighting the parts to be wary of and importantly either
> proven sources of the acceptable quality part / alternatives /
> solutions. Perhaps in this way suppliers of the less that adequate parts
would take notice.
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
> Magnus Karlsson
> Sent: 01 March 2015 09:18
> To: varley@cosmos.net.au
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] water pumps and other repro parts
>
> Regarding the porous sumps, I pointed out this problem for the vendor
> several years ago and they still sell the same porous sumps. No
> attempts whatsoever at rectifying the problem. I have several examples
> of parts with serious faults known to the vendors, which they still
> pass on year after year. It's a policy hard to understand, which in
> the "normal" world most likely would lead to that company being
outcompeted.
>
> Magnus Karlsson
> www.concourshealeys.com
>
>> 1 mar 2015 kl. 06:18 skrev Larry Varley <varley@cosmos.net.au>:
>>
>> Hi Guys, it is in fact very disappointing the quality of some of the
>> reproduction parts available for our cars. Whenever possible it is
>> better to recondition original equipment rather than take the road
>> that can seem easier by replacing. I have seen the following. New
>> complete BJ8 steering box where the sector peg was fully soft steel
>> and wore out in 2000 miles. Alloy petrol tanks that continually crack
>> at the end seams. Plastic fuel gauge tank unit floats that crack at
>> the clip that retains them. Ball joint boots that disintegrate
>> quickly. Cast aluminium 6 cylinder sumps that are porous and leak
>> oil. Alloy 100 cylinder heads sold as for the 100 when they were in
>> fact Austin A70 commercial heads with Healey valves fitted small deep
>> combustion cambers and hopeless valve masking. And for goodness sake
>> does anyone make a Healey exhaust mount that is properly vulcanised
>> rubber to steel and doesn't fall apart? I know it is hard to make
>> small volume production but in the real world the
> suppliers would be getting lots of warranty claims. My sample is just
> across 3 cars, so I'm sure there are more out there. Feel free to
> reply to the list with what parts have disappointed. While the list
> probably should not name and shame the suppliers, we should be
> pointing out what to be aware of when buying new reproduction parts.
> Wherever possible fix what the original manufacturer produced as it
> will have been made to a high standard, with repro, who knows.
>> Cheers
>> Larry Varley
>>
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