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Subject: Re: [Healeys] texas cooler
From: "BJ8Healeys" <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 09:41:55 -0500
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I replaced the original two-piece fan on my BJ8 with a series of fans of =
different design as one step in an effort to cool the engine down.  None =
 of the fans had much of an effect on coolant temperature, but some of =
them were noticeably louder with an objectionable whine.  I tried the =
Texas Kooler, which also did not in itself have an apparent effect on =
the coolant temperature, but it was quiet and I was happy enough with it =
to leave it installed.  I  have had no problems with it in the 14 years =
and 75000 miles since installing it.  I keep the original two-piece fan =
in the boot against the possibility that something might happen to the =
Kooler when I=E2=80=99m a long way from home.   It was the re-cored =
radiator and the sleeved thermostat that finally solved the cooling =
problem for me.

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The problems we have been discussing with blades breaking off the fans, =
I believe, is not with original fans but with the solid  (not riveted) =
multi-blade metal fans that people have used to replace the original =
fans, particularly the ones that Moss was offering for a while.  The =
parts manual shows a 6-blade fan available on BJ7s up to chassis 18808 =
not delivered to the UK market, and 8-blade and 16-blade fans for BJ8s =
intended for the German and Swiss markets.   Whether these have ever had =
a problem with failures, I do not know, but somehow I doubt it.  I once =
saw a fan blade poking through the bonnet of a car at Conclave.   It =
looked like a blade from an original two-piece fan, but I=E2=80=99m not =
sure of that.

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As far as changing the original oil filter canister, that was the first =
modification I did to my car after having a mess to deal with every time =
I  changed oil with the original.  Besides, the correct filter element =
was not available to me locally and I had to order them.  The spin-on =
oil filter does the same job without the mess, and I can get them =
anywhere. =20

=20

The only time my BJ8 has ever stranded me was when the generator =
bearings failed in Washington, DC.  It took me three days to find a =
place that could actually rebuild a Lucas generator while my car was =
parked at a highway patrol station (and, by the way, Healey Surgeons in =
a DC suburb did NOT have the correct generator for my car).  The =
alternator I replaced it with is available at any auto parts store.  My =
traveling companion had a failure of his alternator on the way home from =
Southeastern in Alabama a few years ago, and we had a replacement from =
the nearest parts store installed in about an hour.   Those of us who =
are accustomed to driving our Healeys far from home install most of =
these modifications for reliability and convenience.  At least, I do.

=20

Steve Byers

HBJ8L/36666

BJ8 Registry

AHCA Delegate at Large

Havelock, NC USA

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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
josef-eckert@t-online.de
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2014 3:15 AM
To: Jean Caron; Healeys, Forum
Subject: [Healeys] texas cooler

=20

=20

 Jean,

I heart of broken blades on original one piece 6 blade fans which are =
special items for hotter climates, but not with the ordinary two piece 4 =
blade fans.

Friends some 10-20 years ago installed BMW 5Series plastic fans. Some =
reconed cooler water temperatures. I am still happy with the original =
fan blades and when I can get one of them I buy it and keep it. Its the =
same with original oil filter cases. I see no big improvement changing =
to cartridge ones. Or changing original generators for alternators. I =
think its for those who like to play with their cars. Often this causes =
more troubles than they had before.

=20

Josef Eckert

Konigswinter/Germany

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I replaced the original two-piece fan on my BJ8 with a series of fans =
of different design as one step in an effort to cool the engine =
down.=C2=A0 None=C2=A0 of the fans had much of an effect on coolant =
temperature, but some of them were noticeably louder with an =
objectionable whine.=C2=A0 I tried the Texas Kooler, which also did not =
in itself have an apparent effect on the coolant temperature, but it was =
quiet and I was happy enough with it to leave it installed.=C2=A0 =
I=C2=A0 have had no problems with it in the 14 years and 75000 miles =
since installing it.=C2=A0 I keep the original two-piece fan in the boot =
against the possibility that something might happen to the Kooler when =
I=E2=80=99m a long way from home.=C2=A0 =C2=A0It was the re-cored =
radiator and the sleeved thermostat that finally solved the cooling =
problem for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The problems we have been discussing with blades breaking off the =
fans, I believe, is not with original fans but with the solid=C2=A0 (not =
riveted) multi-blade metal fans that people have used to replace the =
original fans, particularly the ones that Moss was offering for a =
while.=C2=A0 The parts manual shows a 6-blade fan available on BJ7s up =
to chassis 18808 not delivered to the UK market, and 8-blade and =
16-blade fans for BJ8s intended for the German and Swiss =
markets.=C2=A0=C2=A0 Whether these have ever had a problem with =
failures, I do not know, but somehow I doubt it.=C2=A0 I once saw a fan =
blade poking through the bonnet of a car at Conclave.=C2=A0=C2=A0 It =
looked like a blade from an original two-piece fan, but I=E2=80=99m not =
sure of that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>As far as changing the original oil filter canister, that was the =
first modification I did to my car after having a mess to deal with =
every time I =C2=A0changed oil with the original.=C2=A0 Besides, the =
correct filter element was not available to me locally and I had to =
order them.=C2=A0 The spin-on oil filter does the same job without the =
mess, and I can get them anywhere.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The only time my BJ8 has ever stranded me was when the generator =
bearings failed in Washington, DC.=C2=A0 It took me three days to find a =
place that could actually rebuild a Lucas generator while my car was =
parked at a highway patrol station (and, by the way, Healey Surgeons in =
a DC suburb did NOT have the correct generator for my car).=C2=A0 The =
alternator I replaced it with is available at any auto parts =
store.=C2=A0 My traveling companion had a failure of his alternator on =
the way home from Southeastern in Alabama a few years ago, and we had a =
replacement from the nearest parts store installed in about an =
hour.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Those of us who are accustomed to driving our Healeys =
far from home install most of these modifications for reliability and =
convenience.=C2=A0 At least, I do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Steve Byers<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>HBJ8L/36666<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>BJ8 Registry<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>AHCA Delegate at Large<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Havelock, NC USA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>josef-eckert@t-online.de<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 31, =
2014 3:15 AM<br><b>To:</b> Jean Caron; Healeys, Forum<br><b>Subject:</b> =
[Healeys] texas cooler<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>&=
nbsp;Jean,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I=
 heart of broken blades on original one piece 6 blade fans which are =
special items for hotter climates, but not with the ordinary two piece 4 =
blade fans.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>F=
riends some 10-20 years ago installed BMW 5Series plastic fans. Some =
reconed cooler water temperatures. I am still happy with the original =
fan blades and when I can get one of them I buy it and keep it. Its the =
same with original oil filter cases. I see no big improvement changing =
to cartridge ones. Or changing original generators for alternators. I =
think its for those who like to play with their cars. Often this causes =
more troubles than they had before.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>J=
osef Eckert</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>K=
onigswinter/Germany</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:3.75pt;margin-bottom:0in;mar=
gin-left:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></h=
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