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Although I'm no longer on track, I much preferred the smaller club events;=
they generally have more track time, better organization, lower entry fees=
, & more focus on racing & comradery.Some like all of the pomp & hype of th=
e big events but it seems to detract from the aforementioned...Savannah.Seb=
ring.Atlanta?????
Glen Efinger
On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 12:17:12 PM EDT, yellow04 via Fot <fot@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
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This seems like a good time to get a feel for the kind of event we=20
racers want to run our future Kastner Cups with. The two main options=20
are the smaller club events, or the big festival events.
Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are many=20
aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless of the type of=20
event. We get to meet and mingle with new racers and old friends, check=20
out cars we don't typically run with, and get some insight on how our=20
cars run against other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the=20
fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are=20
as follows:
Festival Events
Typically higher entrance fees.
Less track time because the sanctioning body loads the schedule with a=20
wide variety of race groups. With more cars, the higher the possibility=20
of incidents, shortening sessions.
Organizers have less negotiating power as there is little flexibility=20
with the packed schedule.
Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in general from=20
a wide variety of media.
~
Club Events
Typically lower entrance fees.
More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run=20
group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club events don't=20
usually have run groups of 5 year old former NASCAR racers being piloted=20
by guys with big checkbooks and limited experience.
Limited media exposure compared to a major festival event, but good=20
exposure from the normal sources.
~
I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time is the=20
biggest draw for an event. I also look at the value, the anticipated=20
track miles raced vs the entry fees. Racing in front of 10,000 people is=20
all fine and good, but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer=20
friends share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the=20
success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and=20
very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.
Can we get an idea of what type of events active racers would prefer=20
future Kastner Cup events to be held? Festival events or Club events?
While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run=20
at? That would be helpful information as well!
Cheers
Henry Frye
On 2023-07-26 09:21, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:
> I suppose it wouldn=E2=80=99t have to be. However the Mitty is attended v=
ery
> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran
> at Road Atlanta.
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> Ronnie
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>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, chasgee22@gmail.com wrote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BFWould it have to be at the Mitty?
>>=20
>> Chuck
>>=20
>>> On Jul 25, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot=20
>>> <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>=20
>>> =EF=BB=BFIs there any consideration to bringing the KCUP back to Road A=
tlanta=20
>>> During the Mitty.
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Although I'm no longer on tr=
ack, I much preferred the smaller club events; they generally have more tra=
ck time, better organization, lower entry fees, & more focus on racing =
& comradery.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Some like all =
of the pomp & hype of the big events but it seems to detract from the a=
forementioned...</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Savannah.</div=
><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Sebring.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data=
-setdir=3D"false">Atlanta</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">?????=
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data-setdir=3D"false">Glen Efinger<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Wednesday, July 26, 2023 at 12:17:12 PM EDT, yellow0=
4 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div dir=3D"ltr">This seems like a good time to get a =
feel for the kind of event we <br clear=3D"none">racers want to run our fut=
ure Kastner Cups with. The two main options <br clear=3D"none">are the smal=
ler club events, or the big festival events.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">Having competed at several Kastner Cup events, I can say there are m=
any <br clear=3D"none">aspects of the weekend that are the same regardless =
of the type of <br clear=3D"none">event. We get to meet and mingle with new=
racers and old friends, check <br clear=3D"none">out cars we don't typical=
ly run with, and get some insight on how our <br clear=3D"none">cars run ag=
ainst other Triumphs. All the great stuff that makes up the <br clear=3D"no=
ne">fun. However, the differences I see between the two types of events are=
<br clear=3D"none">as follows:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Festiv=
al Events<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Typically higher entrance fe=
es.<br clear=3D"none">Less track time because the sanctioning body loads th=
e schedule with a <br clear=3D"none">wide variety of race groups. With more=
cars, the higher the possibility <br clear=3D"none">of incidents, shorteni=
ng sessions.<br clear=3D"none">Organizers have less negotiating power as th=
ere is little flexibility <br clear=3D"none">with the packed schedule.<br c=
lear=3D"none">Possibly more exposure to the Marque and vintage racing in ge=
neral from <br clear=3D"none">a wide variety of media.<br clear=3D"none"><b=
r clear=3D"none">~<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Club Events<br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Typically lower entrance fees.<br clear=3D"no=
ne">More track time, more flexibility in negotiating perks like our own run=
<br clear=3D"none">group, a second All Triumph (Reunion) Race, etc. Club e=
vents don't <br clear=3D"none">usually have run groups of 5 year old former=
NASCAR racers being piloted <br clear=3D"none">by guys with big checkbooks=
and limited experience.<br clear=3D"none">Limited media exposure compared =
to a major festival event, but good <br clear=3D"none">exposure from the no=
rmal sources.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">~<br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none">I'll start. I'm all about driving the car. To me, track time=
is the <br clear=3D"none">biggest draw for an event. I also look at the va=
lue, the anticipated <br clear=3D"none">track miles raced vs the entry fees=
. Racing in front of 10,000 people is <br clear=3D"none">all fine and good,=
but not a draw for me at all. Many of my racer <br clear=3D"none">friends =
share this general opinion with me, but we can't ignore the <br clear=3D"no=
ne">success of the 2023 event where we had strong numbers in general, and <=
br clear=3D"none">very strong numbers for racers with very long tows.<br cl=
ear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Can we get an idea of what type of events a=
ctive racers would prefer <br clear=3D"none">future Kastner Cup events to b=
e held? Festival events or Club events?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none=
">While we are at it, is there any track somebody has a hankering to run <b=
r clear=3D"none">at? That would be helpful information as well!<br clear=3D=
"none"><br clear=3D"none">Cheers<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Henry=
Frye<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp9d870762yqt0959=
615201" id=3D"ydp9d870762yqtfd65705"><br clear=3D"none">On 2023-07-26 09:21=
, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">> I suppose it wouldn=
=E2=80=99t have to be. However the Mitty is attended very<br clear=3D"none"=
>> well. The track has had many improvements since the KCup was last ran=
<br clear=3D"none">> at Road Atlanta.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=
=3D"none">> Ronnie<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">>> On=
Jul 25, 2023, at 11:21 PM, <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:chasgee22@gmai=
l.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">chasgee22@gmail.com</a> wrote:<br=
clear=3D"none">>> <br clear=3D"none">>> =EF=BB=BFWould it have=
to be at the Mitty?<br clear=3D"none">>> <br clear=3D"none">>>=
Chuck<br clear=3D"none">>> <br clear=3D"none">>>> On Jul 25=
, 2023, at 9:26 PM, Ronnie Babbitt via Fot <br clear=3D"none">>>> =
<<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br clear=3D"none">>&g=
t;> <br clear=3D"none">>>> =EF=BB=BFIs there any consideration =
to bringing the KCUP back to Road Atlanta <br clear=3D"none">>>> D=
uring the Mitty.<br clear=3D"none">________________________________________=
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