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The spec on liner protrusion is actually .003" - .005", and this is critic=
al.=C2=A0 I found one at .002" one time, and tried it anyway.=C2=A0 It didn=
't work!=C2=A0 So, measure carefully and make sure you have at ;least .003"=
protrusion.
Jack
On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 9:59:23 AM EDT, Russell Westfall <rwestfal=
l@ymail.com> wrote: =20
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I absolutely concur about the sleeve standing proud of the block, however,=
be careful that you don't have too much protrusion, (ask me how I know=F0=
=9F=A4=94) I believe the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a copper gasket =
so I'm at about 3. Morty Dunst made my gasket and he can do them in various=
thicknesses.Cheers!Russ Westfall=C2=A0
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On Saturday, August 1, 2020, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
Michael;It is also critical that the liners protrude above the block by .00=
5 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before any compression of=
the figure 8 gaskets. =C2=A0If the protrusion is less, the top of the bloc=
k should be milled to achieve the proper protrusion.If you have milled the =
head more than about .060 you should consider staking the head around the b=
ores between cylinders two and three per the Kastner book. It is weak in th=
is area.The rest of the advice you=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but=
I have not tried all of it.Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the=
head and what you have done with the combustion chambers, you may need to =
reshape the fire ring area of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into=
the combustion chamber.Phil
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On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM, Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrot=
e:
=EF=BB=BF I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard anything about C=
ometic.=C2=A0 I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years ago, using the=
stock head gasket.=C2=A0 I built the engine as I would have built one of m=
y race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less compression (1=
0.5:1).=C2=A0 From day 1 it never really ran right.=C2=A0 I began to suspec=
t coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bought one of those=
test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine is running and =
add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons.=C2=A0 Sure enough, hydrocarbon=
s were getting into my coolant system.=C2=A0 That says bad head gasket or c=
rack in the head.=C2=A0 Since I'd had the head magnafluxed during the rebui=
ld, I assumed it was the head gasket.
I began asking around about where I could get a good gasket.=C2=A0 A guy at=
a local engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic.=C2=A0 I =
had never heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so =
surely they would not make a gasket for it.=C2=A0 He encouraged me to check=
the internet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR =
engine.=C2=A0 It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets =
for different bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order diffe=
rent thicknesses.=C2=A0 They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to =
get to the thickness desired.=C2=A0 I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket.=C2=
=A0 It all sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I=
had received, I ordered one.
I removed the bad head gasket and replaced it with the Cometic gasket, and =
suddenly the engine ran great.=C2=A0 I have put almost 7.000 miles on the c=
ar since then and haven't had a problem.=C2=A0 It runs cool (even on 95 deg=
ree days, as tested recently), pulls strong, and no sign of any coolant lea=
ks.=C2=A0 By the way, I noticed someone else recommended Hylomar gasket cem=
ent.=C2=A0 I also used that.=C2=A0 A light coat on all sealing surfaces doe=
s the trick.=C2=A0 Do not spray a thick coat.=C2=A0 Below is the link to th=
e Cometic web site.=C2=A0 Check it out.
Cometic Gasket - Sealed Under Extreme Pressure
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Phil, Dave,
I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green TR4 =
#802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.
Thank youMichael L
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">The spec on liner protrusion=
is actually .003" - .005", and this is critical. I found one at .002=
" one time, and tried it anyway. It didn't work! So, measure ca=
refully and make sure you have at ;least .003" protrusion.</div><div dir=3D=
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I absolutely concur about the sleeve standing proud of the block, however, =
be careful that you don't have too much protrusion, (ask me how I know=F0=
=9F=A4=94) I believe the spec is 2 to 5 thousandths. I use a copper gasket =
so I'm at about 3. Morty Dunst made my gasket and he can do them in various=
thicknesses.<div>Cheers!</div><div>Russ Westfall <br clear=3D"none"><=
div><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"ht=
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x;color:#715FFA;padding-top:15px;margin-top:0;">On Saturday, August 1, 2020=
, 4:52 AM, Phil Gott via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquo=
te class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917iosymail"><div id=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752=
833917"><div>Michael;<div>It is also critical that the liners protrude abov=
e the block by .005 to .007=E2=80=9D to ensure a good seal. This is before =
any compression of the figure 8 gaskets. If the protrusion is less, t=
he top of the block should be milled to achieve the proper protrusion.</div=
><div>If you have milled the head more than about .060 you should consider =
staking the head around the bores between cylinders two and three per the K=
astner book. It is weak in this area.</div><div>The rest of the advice you=
=E2=80=99ve received is pretty sound, but I have not tried all of it.</div>=
<div>Depending on how much you=E2=80=99ve milled the head and what you have=
done with the combustion chambers, you may need to reshape the fire ring a=
rea of your gasket. It must not protrude at all into the combustion chamber=
.</div><div>Phil<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpf=
f303fbdyiv9752833917yqt3814779460" id=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917yqtfd35058=
"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:25 PM,=
Jack Wheeler via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917yqt3814779460" id=3D"ydpff=
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995a00algo-display-url">I've read all of the comments, but haven't heard an=
ything about Cometic. I had rebuilt my TR-3 engine a number of years =
ago, using the stock head gasket. I built the engine as I would have =
built one of my race engines in the day, except with a milder cam and less =
compression (10.5:1). From day 1 it never really ran right. I b=
egan to suspect coolant was getting into the combustion chamber, so I bough=
t one of those test kits where you pull some coolant out while the engine i=
s running and add a chemical which tests for hydrocarbons. Sure enoug=
h, hydrocarbons were getting into my coolant system. That says bad he=
ad gasket or crack in the head. Since I'd had the head magnafluxed du=
ring the rebuild, I assumed it was the head gasket.</cite></span></div><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp93995a00algo-d=
isplay-url"><br clear=3D"none"></cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><=
cite class=3D"ydpff303fbdyiv9752833917ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I began =
asking around about where I could get a good gasket. A guy at a local=
engine shop (primarily Ford engines) recommended Cometic. I had neve=
r heard of them, and told him the engine was over 50 years old, so surely t=
hey would not make a gasket for it. He encouraged me to check the int=
ernet, and sure enough, they make a whole bunch of them for the TR engine.&=
nbsp; It's been a few years ago, but as I recall, they had gaskets for diff=
erent bores (i.e. 83MM, 86MM, 87MM, etc.) and you could order different thi=
cknesses. They stacked steel gaskets on top of each other to get to t=
he thickness desired. I think I ordered a 3 layer gasket. It al=
l sounded a little fishy, but based on the strong recommendation I had rece=
ived, I ordered one.</cite></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><span><cite class=
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52833917ydp93995a00algo-display-url">I removed the bad head gasket and repl=
aced it with the Cometic gasket, and suddenly the engine ran great. I=
have put almost 7.000 miles on the car since then and haven't had a proble=
m. It runs cool (even on 95 degree days, as tested recently), pulls s=
trong, and no sign of any coolant leaks. By the way, I noticed someon=
e else recommended Hylomar gasket cement. I also used that. A l=
ight coat on all sealing surfaces does the trick. Do not spray a thic=
k coat. Below is the link to the Cometic web site. Check it out=
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<div>I may have compromised my head gasket last weekend at Lime Rock (Green=
TR4 #802), can you or someone recommend one that is robust.</div>
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<div>Thank you</div>
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