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Ultimately vintage race groups are going to look at grid numbers. If
numbers (read $$$) fall then it's time to accept more modern cars.
The group I ran with in the mid-90s evidently had trouble filling grid
spots. So it was a "run what ya brung" kind of mentality. Once the sport
got poplular they could afford to enforce vintage rules.. to the point that
they're about the strictest vintage group around. They've starting cutting
off the Lotus 7 copies as it was a means of also cutting off all the AC
Cobra copies.
So, if they're allowing cars without history to race.. there's always
another Spitfire or TR6 lurking out there (my barn is full of them ;) ) to
keep the '72 and older grid full.
On the flip side.. if they enforced a history requirement on vintage
racing... how many of us have cars with sufficient history to keep running?
So... unless you can convince your local racing group to start accepting
Yugo YV1s... keep looking at the pre-73 vintage legal car projects.
Cheers,
Jim
Dallas
_____
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Greg & Alison Blake
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:23 PM
To: 'Kramer, Robert'; 'John Macartney'; N197TR4@cs.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] VTR & FoT
Hey. There are a few of us out here still in our 30's, at least for a
couple more years. The challenge for me seems to be completing my car
before I turn 40.
I know this was battered about some time ago, but I agree with Bob that
locking in a hard cut off date for "Vintage" is designed obsolescence.
-----Original Message-----
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Kramer, Robert
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 5:43 PM
To: John Macartney; N197TR4@cs.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] VTR & FoT
I was born in 1956. My interest in Triumphs starts with the TR6 model I saw
as a teen and led to my exposure to the earlier cars, eventually racing a
TR3, 4 and 4A. The local clubs are the not so secret solution to our future.
We need to support the TR7/TR8 late Spitfire contingents in our local clubs
and we can still grow the marque. This is one of the problems we have with
vintage racing. By cutting off in 1967 or even 1972 we cut off the younger
generation, you know the 40 year olds.
_____
From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of John Macartney
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 2:40 PM
To: N197TR4@cs.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com
Subject: Re: [Fot] VTR & FoT
Andy Mace wrote:
This does raise an interesting possibility, were FoT members so inclined:
perhaps we could become some sort of "Special Chapter" or "Affiliate" of
VTR?
I take a very 'broad church view' on issues like this, essentially
summarised as follows:
1. It doesn't really matter how you use your Triumph (or Standard) and
because of that, there should be room in your local or national club to
accommodate your usage preference.
2. The vehicle parc is getting smaller each year and current owners are
getting older. This largely explains the diminution of club memberships
3. A surprisingly large number of cars will outlive their enthusiast
custodians and will need to have 'a home'
4. Clubs (national or local) need to recognise this - and its my perception
in the UK that clubs don't adequately do this
5. There will come a time when the vehicle parc and custodian base is so
small that clubs as they currently stand will probably not be viable as
heretofore. This begs the question
6. What plans are national clubs making to address that inevitable
eventuality?
7. No-one can confidently expect to substantially 'grow club membership.'
The vast majority of cars that will survive are already known. Barn-Finds
will become ever more infrequent
With regard to point 6, my perception of the evidence as it relates to the
UK (and probably elsewhere too?) is "nothing at all." Additionally, for as
long as clubs and others continue to provide 'free' technical information on
"How to .....?" projects via the internet, clubs will continue to diminish
in size.
Rant off
Jonmac
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>Ultimately vintage race groups are going to l=
ook at =
grid numbers. If numbers (read $$$) fall then it's time to accept =
more =
modern cars.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>The group I ran with in the mid-90s evidently=
had =
trouble filling grid spots. So it was a "run what ya brung" kind o=
f =
mentality. Once the sport got poplular they could afford to enforc=
e =
vintage rules.. to the point that they're about the strictest vintage gr=
oup =
around. They've starting cutting off the Lotus 7 copies as it was =
a means =
of also cutting off all the AC Cobra copies.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>So, if they're allowing cars without history =
to race.. =
there's always another Spitfire or TR6 lurking out there (my barn is ful=
l of =
them ;) ) to keep the '72 and older grid full.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>On the flip side.. if they enforced a history=
=
requirement on vintage racing... how many of us have cars with sufficien=
t =
history to keep running?</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>So... unless you can convince your local raci=
ng group =
to start accepting Yugo YV1s... keep looking at the pre=
-73 =
vintage legal car projects.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>Jim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D890262102-25092008>Dallas</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Greg & Aliso=
n =
Blake<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:23 PM<BR><B>To:</=
B> =
'Kramer, Robert'; 'John Macartney'; N197TR4@cs.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Fo=
t] VTR =
& FoT<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hey.<SPAN =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There are a few of us out here=
still in =
our 30’s, at least for a couple more years.<SPAN =
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The challenge for me seems to =
be =
completing my car before I turn 40.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </=
o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I know this w=
as =
battered about some time ago, but I agree with Bob that locking in a har=
d cut =
off date for “Vintage” is designed obsolescence. <o:p></o:p>=
</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dnavy size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DTahoma si=
ze=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original =
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> =
fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B><SPAN =
=
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>Kramer, Robert<BR><B=
><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 24, 20=
08 5:43 =
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> John Macartney=
; =
N197TR4@cs.com<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> =
fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Fot] VTR & =
FoT</SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT>=
</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial=
">I was born =
in 1956. My interest in Triumphs starts with the TR6 model I saw as a te=
en and =
led to my exposure to the earlier cars, eventually racing a TR3, 4 and 4=
A. The =
local clubs are the not so secret solution to our future. We need to sup=
port the =
TR7/TR8 late Spitfire contingents in our local clubs and we can still gr=
ow the =
marque. This is one of the problems we have with vintage racing. By cutt=
ing off =
in 1967 or even 1972 we cut off the younger generation, you know the 40 =
year =
olds. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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or=3Dnavy =
size=3D2><SPAN =
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o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=3DTahoma=
size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:<=
/SPAN></FONT></B><FONT =
face=3DTahoma size=3D2><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Taho=
ma"> =
fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B><SPAN =
=
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of </SPAN></B>John Macartney<BR><B=
><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Wednesday, September 24, 20=
08 2:40 =
PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> =
N197TR4@cs.com<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> =
fot@autox.team.net; bdischer@blakedischer.com<BR><B><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Fot] VTR & =
FoT</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3D"Times Ne=
w Roman" =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT>=
</P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">Andy Mace =
wrote:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT id=3Drole_docume=
nt face=3DArial =
color=3Dblack size=3D3><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">This does ra=
ise an =
interesting possibility, were FoT members so inclined: perhaps we could =
become =
some sort of "Special Chapter" or "Affiliate" of VTR? </SPAN></FONT><FON=
T =
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p><=
/o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">I take a =
very 'broad church view' on issues like this, essentially summarised as =
=
follows:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p><=
/o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">1. It =
doesn't really matter how you use your Triumph (or Standard) and because=
of =
that, there should be room in your local or national club to accommodate=
your =
usage preference.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2=
><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">2. The =
vehicle parc is getting smaller each year and current owners are getting=
older. =
This largely explains the diminution of club memberships</SPAN></FONT><F=
ONT =
face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">3. A =
surprisingly large number of cars will outlive their enthusiast custodia=
ns and =
will need to have 'a home'</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack=
=
size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">4. Clubs =
(national or local) need to recognise this - and its my perception in th=
e UK =
that clubs don't adequately do this</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial colo=
r=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">5. There =
will come a time when the vehicle parc and custodian base is so small th=
at clubs =
as they currently stand will probably not be viable as heretofore. This =
begs the =
question</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">6. What =
plans are national clubs making to address that inevitable =
eventuality?</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPA=
N =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">7. No-one =
can confidently expect to substantially 'grow club membership.' The vast=
=
majority of cars that will survive are already known. Barn-Finds will be=
come =
ever more infrequent</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D=
2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
/SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <o:p><=
/o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=3DArial col=
or=3Dblack =
size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
l">With =
regard to point 6, my perception of the evidence as it relates to the UK=
(and =
probably elsewhere too?) is "nothing at all." Additionally, for as =
long as =
clubs and others continue to provide 'free' technical information on "Ho=
w to =
=2E....?" projects via the internet, clubs will continue to diminish in =
=
size.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=3DArial color=3Dblack size=3D2><SPAN =
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
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size=3D3><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Aria=
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style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p><=
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