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Well, this opens the essential question: Is vintage racing about history
(historic cars and what not) or about racing?
Having only a little experience in open track racing (was there, looked over
the edge.. melted a piston, found a job, new girlfriend, prepped autocross
car, lost girlfriend, lost job, found wife) I don't have decades of
experience in vintage racing.
My understanding when I started is that ultimately, it's supposed to be fun.
Yes, the grim reaper lurks about, and engine meltdowns and mechanical
failures are never fun. But... we're not doing it for money. Not for the
cheap chunks of pressboard that some racing groups call trophies. We're
doing it for FUN.
To test ones self on climbing a summit that's never been climbed before. Be
it running a lap under xx time at yy track in a Spitfire. Or whatever you
drive.
Kind of like riding a time trial in cycling. Beat the clock.. hope the Mac
truck doesn't run you over in the process.
But if it's not fun.. why do it?
There were comments about what Vintage is supposed to be (8/10s, etc). In
reality... it's supposed to be like the real racing was. Good judgement
means you drive your car to your (and it's) limits and not beyond, as to not
put others at risk. Things happen on track and we hope they don't... and
if we're smart we have contingency plans in the back of the head for when
they do. At the same time... it's like being a doctor. Do no harm.
So I was never worried about the risk on track. Just worried about what the
goal of the other drivers was. If they're also there for fun.. then usually
things work out ok. If they think they need to beat you at any cost...
maybe it's time for another sport.
My .02
Cheers,
Jim
Dallas
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From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of N197TR4@cs.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:33 PM
To: budscars@comcast.net; Billb@bnj.com; standardtriumph@btinternet.com
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: [Fot] CAR RACING & DEATH
Yup,
Do not jump out of airplanes...
Do not solo ultralight aircraft (when the builder's name is Harold Flatland)
Do not ski AJAX...or even Copper Mountain after a 20 year hiatus.
Do not climb mountains that require pitons.....
Do not ride a motorcycle in downtown London during rush hour....
Do not ride Motocross Competition after age 70....(unless your number is
196)
Do not play golf with OJ
Stay home and look good at your funeral....
I enjoy cottonmouth and shots of adrenaline.
I also enjoy the people I associate with.
Joe A
Hi Gang....Here It Is.......Straight Out....CAR RACING AND DEATH....I've
kept kinda' Quiet about the subject ..Regarding Deaths in Vintage
Racing...and have Layed Back and contemplated things as I've read the
numerous emails......
The Essence of Race Driving is to go as fast as we can to win!
Some of us will die doing that.....That's just the way it is....That's
REALLY the way it is.!.....
Vintage...Who the heck knows who's driving over their heads or not?...No Way
To Tell.....
Racer Bud's Conclusion..I.f the word DANGER creeps into your mind very
often..DO NOT RACE.......
Racer Bud..Spitfire #21
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<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>Having only a little experience in open track=
racing =
(was there, looked over the edge.. melted a piston, found a job, new gir=
lfriend, =
prepped autocross car, lost girlfriend, lost job, found wife) I don't ha=
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decades of experience in vintage racing.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>My understanding when I started is that ultim=
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it's supposed to be fun. Yes, the grim reaper lurks about, and eng=
ine =
meltdowns and mechanical failures are never fun. But... we're not =
doing it =
for money. Not for the cheap chunks of pressboard that some racing=
groups =
call trophies. We're doing it for FUN.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>To test ones self on climbing a summit that's=
never =
been climbed before. Be it running a lap under xx time at yy track=
in a =
Spitfire. Or whatever you drive.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>Kind of like riding a time trial in cycling.&=
nbsp; Beat =
the clock.. hope the Mac truck doesn't run you over in the =
process.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>But if it's not fun.. why do it?</SPAN></FONT=
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<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>There were comments about what Vintage is sup=
posed to =
be (8/10s, etc). In reality... it's supposed to be like the real r=
acing =
was. Good judgement means you drive your car to your (and it's) li=
mits and =
not beyond, as to not put others at risk. Things happen on t=
rack and =
we hope they don't... and if we're smart we have contingency plans in th=
e back =
of the head for when they do. At the same time... it's like being =
a =
doctor. Do no harm.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
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class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>So I was never worried about the risk on trac=
k. =
Just worried about what the goal of the other drivers was. If they=
're also =
there for fun.. then usually things work out ok. If they think the=
y need =
to beat you at any cost... maybe it's time for another =
sport.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>My .02</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>Cheers,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>=
<SPAN =
class=3D546140302-25092008>Jim</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<SPAN =
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> fot-bounces@autox.team.net =
[mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>N197TR4@cs.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:33 =
PM<BR><B>To:</B> budscars@comcast.net; Billb@bnj.com; =
standardtriumph@btinternet.com<BR><B>Cc:</B> =
fot@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Fot] CAR RACING & =
DEATH<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV><FONT face=3Darial,helvetica><FONT size=3D2 PTSIZE=3D"10">Yup=
, <BR><BR>Do =
not jump out of airplanes... <BR>Do not solo ultralight aircraft (when t=
he =
builder's name is Harold Flatland) <BR>Do not ski AJAX...or even Copper =
Mountain =
after a 20 year hiatus. <BR>Do not climb mountains that require pitons..=
... =
<BR>Do not ride a motorcycle in downtown London during rush hour.... <BR=
>Do not =
ride Motocross Competition after age 70....(unless your number is 196) <=
BR>Do =
not play golf with OJ <BR><BR>Stay home and look good at your funeral...=
. =
<BR><BR>I enjoy cottonmouth and shots of adrenaline. <BR>I also enjoy th=
e people =
I associate with. <BR><BR>Joe A <BR><BR><BR>
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style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px s=
olid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" =
TYPE=3D"CITE">Hi Gang....Here It Is.......Straight Out....CAR RACING AND=
=
DEATH....I've kept kinda' Quiet about the subject ..Regarding =
Deaths in Vintage Racing...and have Layed Back and contemplated =
things =
as I've read the numerous emails...... <BR>The Essence of Race Driving=
is to =
go as fast as we can to win! <BR>Some of us will die doing that.....Th=
at's =
just the way it is....That's REALLY the way it is.!..... <BR><BR>Vinta=
ge...Who =
the heck knows who's driving over their heads or not?...No Way To Tell=
..... =
<BR>Racer Bud's Conclusion..I.f the word DANGER creeps into your=
mind =
very often..DO NOT RACE....... <BR><BR>Racer Bud..Spitfire #21 =
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