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RE: Lotus

To: "'james creasy'" <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>,
Subject: RE: Lotus
From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:59:55 -0700
A "real" GT-40 or the new one with the 5.4 liter DOHC engine?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: james creasy [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:54
> To: Michael R. Clements; 'Allendorfer, Peter'; 'Pat Kelly '; 
> ''John F. Kelly Jr.' '; ''John J. Stimson-III' '
> Cc: ''BayArea Team.Net' '
> Subject: Re: Lotus
> 
> 
> best sounding car ive heard was in a video of a GT40 taking 
> off from the pits.  mine sounded better before i put the 
> exhaust inserts in.  they make it kind of wheezy sounding.
> 
> -james c
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> To: "'Allendorfer, Peter'" <Peter@regionofdoom.com>; "'Pat 
> Kelly '" <lollipop487@attbi.com>; "''John F. Kelly Jr.' '" 
> <76067.1750@compuserve.com>; "''John J. Stimson-III' '" 
> <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
> Cc: "''BayArea Team.Net' '" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:14 AM
> Subject: RE: Lotus
> 
> 
> > I admit I'm biased, but I think my Panoz sounds way better 
> than a 360 
> > Modena.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net 
> > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allendorfer, 
> > > Peter
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 09:53
> > > To: 'Pat Kelly '; 'Michael R. Clements '; ''John F. Kelly
> > > Jr.' '; ''John J. Stimson-III' '
> > > Cc: ''BayArea Team.Net' '
> > > Subject: RE: Lotus
> > >
> > >
> > >  It's not the smell, it's the sound.  The ferrari sound engineer 
> > > must get paid in gold bullion.  It's the only explination of the 
> > > exhaust sound.
> > >
> > > -Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Pat Kelly
> > > To: Michael R. Clements; 'John F. Kelly Jr.'; 'John J.  
> Stimson-III'
> > > Cc: 'BayArea Team.Net'
> > > Sent: 5/30/02 9:28 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Lotus
> > >
> > > But, but, the leather smells so great! :)
> > > --Pat K
> > >
> > > ----------
> > > >From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> > > >To: "'John F. Kelly Jr.'" <76067.1750@compuserve.com>, "'John J.
> > > Stimson-III'"
> > > <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
> > > >Cc: "'BayArea Team.Net'" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > > >Subject: RE: Lotus
> > > >Date: Thu, May 30, 2002, 9:09 AM
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Does a 3,000 lb. Ferrari actually outcorner a 1,500 lb. Elise? 
> > > > I'll
> > > bet
> > > > the Elise actually runs circles around any Ferrari on a tight
> > > course...
> > > >
> > > > Most magazines have a strongly pro-Ferrari bias. I've
> > > driven Ferraris
> > > > owned by a couple friends of mine and was underwhelmed.
> > > They were nice
> > > > cars, with handling and acceleration similar to a 3rd
> > > generation RX-7.
> > > > All the hype from everything I'd read about Ferraris had me
> > > expecting
> > > > more.
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net 
> > > >> [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John
> > > F. Kelly Jr.
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 08:39
> > > >> To: John F. Kelly Jr.; John J. Stimson-III
> > > >> Cc: BayArea Team.Net
> > > >> Subject: Re: Lotus
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -------------------- Begin Original Message 
> --------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> Message text written by "John J. Stimson-III"
> > > >>
> > > >> "The Esprit certainly is not.  However, the Elise and its 
> > > >> variants sold by Lotus can only be registered for the street by
> > > dodging around
> > > >> the laws.  I guess that is what Scot probably meant. "
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> -------------------- End Original Message --------------------
> > > >>
> > > >> I think you're correct. But a "gray market" I'm more 
> familar with 
> > > >> concerns cameras purchased overseas and for which the 
> > > >> manufacturer will not honor any warranties.
> > > >>
> > > >> In the Elise's case, the sale is direct from the
> > > manufacturer. Their
> > > >> web page is pretty specific that you can't drive it on the 
> > > >> street. Oh, BTW, did you see the June issue of Road & 
> Track which
> > > ranks the
> > > >> Elise second only to a Ferrari as a good handling car?
> > > >>
> > > >> --John Kelly

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