the 1960's version. ill try to post the clip later today. id describe it,
but i cant in a way suitable for public distribution. :)
-james c
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@attbi.com>
> Real...this was in the mid-60s, before the words "collector car" had been
> invented. :)
> --Pat K
>
> ----------
> >From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> >To: "'james creasy'" <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>, "'Allendorfer, Peter'"
> <Peter@regionofdoom.com>, "'Pat Kelly '" <lollipop487@attbi.com>, "''John
F.
> Kelly Jr.' '" <76067.1750@compuserve.com>, "''John J. Stimson-III' '"
> <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
> >Cc: "''BayArea Team.Net' '" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: RE: Lotus
> >Date: Thu, May 30, 2002, 10:59 AM
> >
>
> > A "real" GT-40 or the new one with the 5.4 liter DOHC engine?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: james creasy [mailto:Black94PGT@pacbell.net]
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:54
> >> To: Michael R. Clements; 'Allendorfer, Peter'; 'Pat Kelly ';
> >> ''John F. Kelly Jr.' '; ''John J. Stimson-III' '
> >> Cc: ''BayArea Team.Net' '
> >> Subject: Re: Lotus
> >>
> >>
> >> best sounding car ive heard was in a video of a GT40 taking
> >> off from the pits. mine sounded better before i put the
> >> exhaust inserts in. they make it kind of wheezy sounding.
> >>
> >> -james c
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> >> To: "'Allendorfer, Peter'" <Peter@regionofdoom.com>; "'Pat
> >> Kelly '" <lollipop487@attbi.com>; "''John F. Kelly Jr.' '"
> >> <76067.1750@compuserve.com>; "''John J. Stimson-III' '"
> >> <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
> >> Cc: "''BayArea Team.Net' '" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:14 AM
> >> Subject: RE: Lotus
> >>
> >>
> >> > I admit I'm biased, but I think my Panoz sounds way better
> >> than a 360
> >> > Modena.
> >> >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> >> > > [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Allendorfer,
> >> > > Peter
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 09:53
> >> > > To: 'Pat Kelly '; 'Michael R. Clements '; ''John F. Kelly
> >> > > Jr.' '; ''John J. Stimson-III' '
> >> > > Cc: ''BayArea Team.Net' '
> >> > > Subject: RE: Lotus
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > It's not the smell, it's the sound. The ferrari sound engineer
> >> > > must get paid in gold bullion. It's the only explination of the
> >> > > exhaust sound.
> >> > >
> >> > > -Peter
> >> > >
> >> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > > From: Pat Kelly
> >> > > To: Michael R. Clements; 'John F. Kelly Jr.'; 'John J.
> >> Stimson-III'
> >> > > Cc: 'BayArea Team.Net'
> >> > > Sent: 5/30/02 9:28 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: Lotus
> >> > >
> >> > > But, but, the leather smells so great! :)
> >> > > --Pat K
> >> > >
> >> > > ----------
> >> > > >From: "Michael R. Clements" <mrclem@telocity.com>
> >> > > >To: "'John F. Kelly Jr.'" <76067.1750@compuserve.com>, "'John J.
> >> > > Stimson-III'"
> >> > > <john@harlie.idsfa.net>
> >> > > >Cc: "'BayArea Team.Net'" <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> >> > > >Subject: RE: Lotus
> >> > > >Date: Thu, May 30, 2002, 9:09 AM
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Does a 3,000 lb. Ferrari actually outcorner a 1,500 lb. Elise?
> >> > > > I'll
> >> > > bet
> >> > > > the Elise actually runs circles around any Ferrari on a tight
> >> > > course...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Most magazines have a strongly pro-Ferrari bias. I've
> >> > > driven Ferraris
> >> > > > owned by a couple friends of mine and was underwhelmed.
> >> > > They were nice
> >> > > > cars, with handling and acceleration similar to a 3rd
> >> > > generation RX-7.
> >> > > > All the hype from everything I'd read about Ferraris had me
> >> > > expecting
> >> > > > more.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > >> From: owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net
> >> > > >> [mailto:owner-ba-autox@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of John
> >> > > F. Kelly Jr.
> >> > > >> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 08:39
> >> > > >> To: John F. Kelly Jr.; John J. Stimson-III
> >> > > >> Cc: BayArea Team.Net
> >> > > >> Subject: Re: Lotus
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -------------------- Begin Original Message
> >> --------------------
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> Message text written by "John J. Stimson-III"
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> "The Esprit certainly is not. However, the Elise and its
> >> > > >> variants sold by Lotus can only be registered for the street by
> >> > > dodging around
> >> > > >> the laws. I guess that is what Scot probably meant. "
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> -------------------- End Original Message --------------------
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> I think you're correct. But a "gray market" I'm more
> >> familar with
> >> > > >> concerns cameras purchased overseas and for which the
> >> > > >> manufacturer will not honor any warranties.
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> In the Elise's case, the sale is direct from the
> >> > > manufacturer. Their
> >> > > >> web page is pretty specific that you can't drive it on the
> >> > > >> street. Oh, BTW, did you see the June issue of Road &
> >> Track which
> >> > > ranks the
> >> > > >> Elise second only to a Ferrari as a good handling car?
> >> > > >>
> >> > > >> --John Kelly
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